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 (DIR) Post #AX51ap8TUcvqdACx0q by Flick@spinster.xyz
       2023-06-26T10:13:31.360668Z
       
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       https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/gay-rights-and-the-limits-of-liberalism-be4When majorities supported gay couples getting married, they did not thereby support having their daughters forced to shower next to biological males in locker rooms, or compete with them in competitive sports; they did not support teaching kindergartners that their bodies have nothing to do with whether they are boys or girls; they did not support using unapproved drugs on troubled children to arrest their puberty, and sterilize them for life; and they did not support schools transitioning their children into the opposite gender without their knowledge.They didn’t support these things because they have absolutely nothing to do with gay rights. And they didn’t support them because trying to abolish sex differences in society — differences that are among the most well-established facts of human existence — is insane. Sure, many Americans were and are open to helping transgender kids be accepted, to treating trans adults with sympathy and dignity — all the polls show that — but using the experience of this minuscule minority of humans as the default reality for all of us — and teaching that as fact to children — is not an example of inclusion. It is an example of a well-meant untruth, imposed by fiat. Of course we’ve seen a reaction.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX51eJ6UWrgmRYwPuS by Flick@spinster.xyz
       2023-06-26T10:14:09.064996Z
       
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       In the gay rights movement, we examined every single possible argument that could be used against us, and answered them. We debated anyone anywhere. And, in the broader context, we left you, gays and straights, alone. Nothing in your life had to change to accept gay equality.Compare that with the transqueer movement. They will never leave you alone, they will police the words you use, they will deny you access to any same-sex space, they will force your daughter to compete against males, they will tell your child they may be the opposite sex inside and keep it from you, and they will use blackmail — and a farrago of falsehood — to put your kid on a lifetime of medication. They refuse to debate opponents; they cancel and demonize even the most liberal of people (see JK Rowling); they censor words or destroy their meaning and defend violence. In all of this, they are as hostile to a free society as the worst fanatics on the far right.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX547fMB4VivlZPCOu by tenaciouswisdom@freeatlantis.com
       2023-06-26T10:30:11Z
       
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       @Flick I am not on the far right, left, or an any "side". However, the far right is nowhere even CLOSE to being as hostile to a free society as the transqueer movement is. Their numerous daily crimes against children and violence towards anyone who doesn't support their vile ideologies. Far surpasses anything that your average far right citizen has ever done, or will ever do. By a very wide margin.Other than that I completely agree with you on this subject matter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX54PdxF1XI4d7JWpk by Flick@spinster.xyz
       2023-06-26T10:45:06.535160Z
       
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       @tenaciouswisdom To be fair, he does say “the worst fanatics on the far-right”, but yes, these days the TRAs are far more violent and dangerous, at least in the west.