Post AX3PPwVbGSNspsm6IC by waotzi@taobox.pub
 (DIR) More posts by waotzi@taobox.pub
 (DIR) Post #AX3OqTasmF0D1TKljE by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:24:37.985344Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       When you mention Google + prism you will alwasy get this kind of repsones from Graphene, HOW DARE YOU NOT TRUST THEM!! THEY DO SO MUCH FOR OPEN SOURCE!!!
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3OyU6al956vRz612 by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2023-06-25T15:26:03.938344Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @waotzi having the source doesn't protect a trusting trust attack, but it does at least make it possible to read the code (nobody does, but you could!) and build your own. so idk.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3P3iIVQ97uOE3BZI by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2023-06-25T15:27:01.664461Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @waotzi i have a feeling prism probably runs more off basic ass psychology where google et all just secretly dump the backups on their end more than relying on anything clever.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3P5kj7MNHSVFTDXc by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:27:23.271614Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       right, but why should i suddently fully trust google when they are known to be part of prism? just because they contribute to llvm and linux
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3PAsL0UOwbYYdS6q by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:28:19.691345Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       no clue how deep the spying is ,thats why i wanted to know more. in theory the binary blobs in firmware could be used for spying.. thats what i would to know more about, but they didnt want to have that discussion
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3PNZ2nXB05TzAWUS by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2023-06-25T15:30:35.777265Z
       
       0 likes, 2 repeats
       
       @waotzi they could be, it's just worth noting that a lot of telco stuff the backdoor isn't even hidden. they have to put it in there (called CALEA) and there's just a button that turns on whatever monitoring system there is.the amount of E2E crypto is very low. they just have to gatekeep crypto out of the big platforms (which they do, successfully, also see CISA where the FBI regularly shows up to threaten Zuck with the latest narrative enforcement orders) so they get to scoop most all of it without really needing serious oceans eleven bullshit.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3PPwVbGSNspsm6IC by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:31:02.975641Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       exactly, well said
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3Q8VGZOj5VNNzbxw by jazzilla@noagendasocial.com
       2023-06-25T15:39:06Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @icedquinn @waotzi What do you think about the old Intel management engine whistleblower stuff from years ago? It seems that if you have a western computer, all of its Io and results are being kept for replay and analysis.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3QHdeZaGaxzjZlxY by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:40:40.180922Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       yeah i don't trust the hardware... wish i could install libreboot on my laptop :/As far as i know it can auto update so even if there is no spyware right now at any point in time it just need a software update on minix
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3QJMi9Xu2K1p4dtY by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:41:04.054613Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       but psss don't mention this to graphene os or they will get mad and accuse you of misinformation
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3QOclzFuo5I7NJ8C by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2023-06-25T15:41:59.755596Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @jazzilla @waotzi i'm not a spook but most of the time when there is a big reveal about spooks and spook abuse its very rarely anything super shadowrun/heist film and tends to be something abjectly stupid like the password to the website was the name of the website.i mean it could just be parallel reconstruction so idk
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3QUqCYF3oefzlSUK by icedquinn@blob.cat
       2023-06-25T15:43:07.686389Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       @jazzilla @waotzi to be fair the interviews with red/blue teams in private pen testing have the same stories as a lot of leaks do. people are just dumb and its always easier for a well established group to play the people than it is to burn your zero days.
       
 (DIR) Post #AX3QVqodRZ7Qs43kSO by waotzi@taobox.pub
       2023-06-25T15:43:18.613312Z
       
       0 likes, 0 repeats
       
       i think whats concerning is that the possibility is out there and minix auto updates, would just need a new spyware update...definitly will invest in a device with libreboot next time