Post AWctZvEhmRqKSeq2RE by tehstu@hachyderm.io
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(DIR) Post #AWctZvEhmRqKSeq2RE by tehstu@hachyderm.io
2023-06-12T19:05:55Z
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The #lemmy and #kbin approach is quite interesting. I had (incorrectly) assumed it would be something like usenet, where (somehow) a community is created and then everyone mirrors it. So then following gaming wouldn't just be on my instance of kbin, but also gaming on beehaw, etc. I put no thought into how this would be possible, obviously. But what happens if (theoretically) beehaw.org goes away? Individual users can migrate from mastodon and other services, but how do you migrate a community?
(DIR) Post #AWctZw94OsvhHTD3IG by tehstu@hachyderm.io
2023-06-12T19:07:31Z
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I mean, perhaps you can move your users, but even if your posts came with they're not in the context they were originally created, right? Or perhaps we need to move beyond ensuring these things last. I think that would be a shame, though. As someone else commented, it's not reddit (or forums, etc.) per se, but the communities that are important.
(DIR) Post #AWctZwsnerVdZIbZZY by kjr@qoto.org
2023-06-12T20:31:46Z
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@tehstu there is nothing like that yet, but I agree that it is a very strong use case.
(DIR) Post #AWcthZtB25rKZRQ3KS by aesthetikx@ruby.social
2023-06-12T20:33:08Z
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@kjr @tehstu I think a better approach than what lemmy does currently would be similar to how mastodon handles hashtags. E.g. /c/cats would be "global" /c/cats from all federated instances -- my instances /c/cats wouldn't be different than some other instances /c/cats, unless I toggle 'local only', or something.
(DIR) Post #AWcu33ibK4qnAMiPlw by kjr@qoto.org
2023-06-12T20:37:01Z
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@aesthetikx @tehstu but the full approach is different. In Mastodon, you follow people.In Reddit/Kbin/Lemmy, you follow topics, and you post and discuss ONLY inside of the topic.Then those topics are communities, which cannot be described by keywords, you would need mostly more than a keyword to define a topic or community.
(DIR) Post #AWcuKwOlHEvffyxjJg by aesthetikx@ruby.social
2023-06-12T20:40:15Z
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@kjr @tehstu I see what you're saying, and I think lemmy (or a spiritual successor) will succeed. I think it could depend on the topic -- e.g. maybe you want your communities /c/memes to be different than another -- despite them having the same name. I think it could add to the discoverability problem though, if you need to "make sure you find the right instance to get the /c/cars instance that actually has users" etc.
(DIR) Post #AWcvR5by2IuhwQdQye by tehstu@hachyderm.io
2023-06-12T20:46:11Z
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@aesthetikx @kjr Yeah, the discoverability thing is interesting. Folks will remember c/cats easier than !cats@instance. I don't know what the solution is but look forward to great minds on the fediverse tackling these issues.
(DIR) Post #AWcvR6S4uYb6Y313Ca by kjr@qoto.org
2023-06-12T20:52:35Z
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@tehstu @aesthetikx A topic (subreddit, or magazin, or community depending of the software) has several components: a title which gives a generic idea, a description which contraints it more... about what wir talk, and rules of conducte.A topic like cats is generic, but a community can be about street cats in Paris, another one about health of pet cats, another one about cats in vegan families, or about conservation of wild cats in the mountains.
(DIR) Post #AWcvf5HQ46EAy3hHSS by aesthetikx@ruby.social
2023-06-12T20:48:14Z
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@tehstu @kjr Also, because mastodon and lemmy are both activity pub, is there a way to interop them somehow? Can I comment on a post from mastodon? Can I see posts from lemmy instances in my mastodon timeline? etc.
(DIR) Post #AWcvfEoibfDAXwLV6u by tehstu@hachyderm.io
2023-06-12T20:52:31Z
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@aesthetikx @kjr they do. I have an account on fedia.io, and have replied to posts from Jerry (which appear there federated from mastodon) using that account, and then flicked back to mastodon to reply again here. It was immediate, so awesome to see in action.
(DIR) Post #AWcvfFRiGgP4UsadtI by kjr@qoto.org
2023-06-12T20:55:06Z
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@tehstu @aesthetikx At the moment it works not very well because of the actual challenge for the servers, and some federation features doesn't work 100%. But yes, not only read, it is possible to publish too.
(DIR) Post #AWcw3FG8c7HurscPR2 by kjr@qoto.org
2023-06-12T20:59:29Z
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@aesthetikx @tehstu yes. I participate in some communities, and they are in different instances with different software (kbin and lemmy). Discoverability is not easy.