Post AW7KMhIcu3fBK0nw3c by travisfw@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AW01hli8RF4FqiLmeu by Jdreben@mastodon.world
       2023-05-25T01:36:22Z
       
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       Do you want #Meta to be blocked on *your* server when/if they #federate with #ActivityPub?#Polls #Poll
       
 (DIR) Post #AW0n81vhSJ0lWeifpY by 8petros@petroskowo.pl
       2023-05-25T11:16:35Z
       
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       Not sure why.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW2pnXogOVYMWCHS3U by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-26T10:59:46Z
       
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       @smallpatatas> In some ways they may have done more damage than Gab could haveThere's absolutely no question that Meta have done more social harm than little troll silos like the chans and Cess.pit. It's like comparing nuclear bombs and napalm.  @atomicpoet
       
 (DIR) Post #AW2pwsOpEjtwxfdTdY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-26T11:01:27Z
       
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       @smallpatatas> In some ways they may have done more damage than [cess.pit]* could haveThere's absolutely no question that Meta have done more social harm than little troll silos like the chans and cess.pit. It's like comparing nuclear bombs and napalm.  * I refuse to promote their toxic brand even to criticise it.@atomicpoet
       
 (DIR) Post #AW2wVgoQuMr8sxb4F6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-26T12:14:57Z
       
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       @smallpatatas > few had an issue collectively fediblocking that serverFew understood that is was neither principled *nor* good political strategic to block servers like cess.pit or lies.social en masse. Yes, servers set up specifically to be safe harbour for people likely to be targeted by them. But Limit/ Silence would have been adequate for the rest. The bullying campaign that went on against servers and app devs who didn't block was disgusting. See:https://strypey.dreamwidth.org/3233.html@atomicpoet
       
 (DIR) Post #AW49HmwknW8qQ09Obo by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-27T02:12:50Z
       
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       @smallpatatas > deplatforming of leftist voices isn't a hypothetical... Look at what is happening to twitterYou're conflating 2 very different things. Titter is a platform. It's not an OS, a browser, or any other kind of general-purpose app. But what's happening there is a real world example of my hypothetical. The precedent created by liberal deplatforming there, means anyone making a principled argument against deplatforming of leftist voices there doesn't have a leg to stand on.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW49VG6BiopYb3zDk0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-27T02:15:16Z
       
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       @smallpatatas > app devs should not code in blocks to those spaces, which would prevent ... users ... accidentally [wandering] into a fascist spaceI'm not sure why you think such blocks would prevent them wandering in. I can't see how they would. But as I argued in the piece, such blocks certainly makes it harder for them to see the problem with where they are, and get out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW4ETCOP1vX6IHLLlY by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-27T03:10:50Z
       
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       @smallpatatas > maybe I'm understanding you incorrectlyIndeed. Can I suggest reading my blog post and this thread again, after a good night's sleep? Perhaps then we can have a discussion about what I wrote. Clubbing me about the ears with standardized talking points that have nothing to do with what I'm arguing might reduce your cognitive dissonance, but otherwise it's not that helpful.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW4KjiTa6yLM9p1c5g by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-27T04:21:07Z
       
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       @smallpatatas > take carePeace.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7KMePFeyBELgsgT2 by supernovae@universeodon.com
       2023-05-25T02:14:18Z
       
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       @Jdreben no.  Users can block it if they want.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7KMgRo4RPcgC5kjA by Jdreben@mastodon.world
       2023-05-25T02:18:59Z
       
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       @supernovae I concur with this response. Curious to see the results not going that way. This poll was inspired by another on Calckey where over a hundred voted for blocking hypothetical Meta server(s).perhaps many come to the fediverse explicitly to avoid that company. I am not a particular fan by any means but would not like to see mass defederation.This poll is honestly a not subtle attempt to engage with those who seem to feel differently…
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7KMhIcu3fBK0nw3c by travisfw@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-28T14:03:45Z
       
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       @Jdreben @supernovae You're probably familiar with capitalism being called amoral, IE not immoral but ROI is a higher priority. Well. #meta, or, more specifically: it's leadership, has really shown us how much overlap there is in the venn diagram between amorality and immorality. Isn't there a list somewhere of all their misdeeds? I couldn't tolerate any more after their 2010 fckup they called "instant personalization", but that was Valdez compared to other Deepwater Horizons.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7KMi6xstvfq8M8WG by travisfw@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-28T14:29:16Z
       
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       @Jdreben @supernovae nobody likes #meta. Somehow, people still use it. I can't understand. I am here because I believe FLOSS has a solid moral value system, and so I feel good about contributing. For moral reasons, we must draw a line somewhere. Where to draw the line? I don't know, but let's talk about all the ways they might try to take over the #fediverse. Because you know they're talking about it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7KMin9M3fnwy5pGy by supernovae@universeodon.com
       2023-05-28T14:37:27Z
       
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       @travisfw @Jdreben Facebook has 2.9 billion users. More than half the known humans on the internet. If we can give them a smooth transition to the fediverse, that’s what i’ll do.They have no means to take things over -it’s not like our small niche is going to stop doing what they do and join facebook again.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7KMjXwY56UI5zCD2 by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
       2023-05-28T15:01:06.275921Z
       
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       @supernovae @travisfw @Jdreben Isn’t there close to 8 billion humans on this planet?
       
 (DIR) Post #AW7LvXTBXda4vPv94y by supernovae@universeodon.com
       2023-05-28T15:12:05Z
       
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       @gme @travisfw @Jdreben yeah but only about 5 billion on internet