Post AW3561P6csaeo6aNVY by neffscape@fosstodon.org
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 (DIR) Post #AW33VawPR9vyM4EIbo by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T13:33:16Z
       
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       For anyone who still hasn't found a compelling enough reason to switch to #Linux, may I present: https://youtu.be/FCfwc-NNo30
       
 (DIR) Post #AW33ktk9oR0r0snPlY by Mundon@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-26T13:35:49Z
       
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       @killyourfm First off honestly I was expecting this to be a rick-roll...I guess the internet has ruined me for that.Secondly...so it's spicy Cortana, the thing everyone turns off when setting up their computer.  Not a fan...
       
 (DIR) Post #AW34CTMXUQAlIothMO by AdamBishop@floss.social
       2023-05-26T13:40:57Z
       
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       @killyourfm Geeeezz ... 😳
       
 (DIR) Post #AW34MMiN3qrza2pHzk by AdamBishop@floss.social
       2023-05-26T13:42:47Z
       
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       @killyourfm ... The undead Clippy 📎  ....
       
 (DIR) Post #AW34hfYSD2qu5pLWRE by wiredfire@mas.to
       2023-05-26T13:46:40Z
       
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       @killyourfm copilot feels like one of the less crowbarred uses of LLMs to me. For many a PC is still a complicated thing. If this can make (comparatively) complex tasks easier to access for the very non-technical person then there’s a real use case here. The whole idea of asking Excel to cut a complex bit of data is alone a compelling scenario. It looks.. actually useful dare I say. Nothing that calls to me, but I’m not the target market for it. That said I’m not getting Win11 so it’s moot
       
 (DIR) Post #AW34nJy5NfJqsg1vyy by LinuxClaude@floss.social
       2023-05-26T13:47:39Z
       
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       @killyourfm I  tried yesterday this copilot thing in Microsoft Edge on my phone. I can tell you that's it's far from ready if you don't live in the United States and don't speak English. Useless. Uninstalled. 👋
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3561P6csaeo6aNVY by neffscape@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-26T13:51:01Z
       
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       @killyourfm I actually think an autopilot feature could be more useful in a Linux distro. Imagine asking "install Libreoffice" and it just install it without knowing the command line commands or firing up your software manager. Also, imagine asking: "why my damn NVIDIA card doesn't work correctly" and receiving actual proposal to fix things? I think it would be brilliant.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW35Ve2i6ZpdsnKQi0 by cdp1337@social.veraciousnetwork.com
       2023-05-26T13:55:36Z
       
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       @killyourfm Microsoft: "We're going to integrate ML into our public search engine, then upload all users' private content, tax returns, and homemade "movies" into that same ML system"Yup, wonderful idea.  This _definitely_ won't go sideways immediately after roll-out.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW368aVZBFGqDLOYpk by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T14:02:42Z
       
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       @Mundon by the gods, I wish it WAS a Rick-roll.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW36R7v9gvSH3RCijw by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T14:06:02Z
       
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       @browren which is surprising. I mean, there have been free plugins for Wordpress analysing that exact thing for years.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW36aiFvy31KLtUhay by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T14:07:41Z
       
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       @wiredfire the promising use-cases are numerous! So are the privacy concerns.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW36l3x0A7LEX5ZeDY by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T14:09:41Z
       
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       @cdp1337 no one says they’ll do that on purpose. But equally damaging mistakes have happened with Windows. (I’m recalling a nasty bug around 2018 or 2019 that just wiped out entire documents / photos folders.)
       
 (DIR) Post #AW374zaO6Ff6msV2ZM by RassilonianLegate@mstdn.social
       2023-05-26T14:13:14Z
       
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       @killyourfmIf I hadden't switched over a year ago (becouse win 10 would not stop breaking no matter what I did) this would definitely be the last straw, as is it solidifies my determination never to go back
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3ARZNQ0jFw1XtHlY by cdp1337@social.veraciousnetwork.com
       2023-05-26T14:50:48Z
       
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       @killyourfm My concern is less of your personal data will end up on bing, (though that's certainly a possibility), but more of juice for the ML which will get saved in their database, potentially leading to data leaks.ie: "How much did so-and-so pay in taxes in 2021?"For a system that is supposed to be adaptive and responsive based on learned data, this poses difficulties in data management, and part of the reason that my employer (smartly for once), disallows any ML/AI of our internal data.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3AbAEoKauQx9RJSK by mforester@rollenspiel.social
       2023-05-26T14:52:41Z
       
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       @killyourfm they took away fucking Windows Terminal!!! 😱😱😱Nothing is holy anymore. I would so love to ditch Windows (and any other Microsoft product) entirely, but my work won't let me. 😩At least I found a suitable replacement for Windows Terminal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3Bc00fwaXNTWn2K8 by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T15:04:00Z
       
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       @mforester They WHAT???
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3D8Fu0UXbbzAcEHQ by pit@masto.thepit.space
       2023-05-26T15:21:04Z
       
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       @killyourfm I cannot wait for a future where this technology is not privacy invasive
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3Lhkeow6YP8hwu8G by wiredfire@mas.to
       2023-05-26T16:57:06Z
       
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       @killyourfm it’s the lack of transparency around privacy that bothers me. I have a gmail, so I’m clearly ok trading some level of data for service, but I doubt many will have that data harvesting aspect put front and centre when agreeing to copilot. I’m not fully anti-data-snaffling, per se, but the EULAs long as the bible written in legal technobabble make it functionally impossible for folk to make an informed choice much of the time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3OEpfxUzCwAUNpWC by alerque@mastodon.social
       2023-05-26T17:25:28Z
       
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       @killyourfm Presented without comment.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3OhMufW75DMNs3Xs by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T17:30:41Z
       
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       @alerque Literally. Haha!
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3OqjTT0JXnwGc2JE by sobfly@mastodon.social
       2023-05-26T15:44:46Z
       
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       @mforester😲Wtf...since when!? And what is your replacement?@killyourfm
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3OqkHS0TWiRHzxDc by mforester@rollenspiel.social
       2023-05-26T16:36:44Z
       
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       @sobflyhttps://www.windowscentral.com/software-apps/windows-11/github-copilot-will-bring-the-power-of-ai-to-windows-terminal 😩I saw this yesterday and was too frustrated to even read what they are planning. I've switched to wsltty, which is derived from Mintty. It doesn't have tabs, but I (re)familiarized myself with tmux and it's fine. I think even a bit better than before. Not sure yet. 😅Wsltty doesn't integrate with PowerShell, Cmd or anything else, but when I'm being honest: I spend most of my time in WSL anyway.  @killyourfm
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3Oql6qvMdx0i30L2 by mforester@rollenspiel.social
       2023-05-26T16:39:28Z
       
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       @sobflyI also had a real creepy experience today. I chatted with a coworker via MS Teams. To any chat message, Teams will generate three quick replies. In this case...all three of them Spanish. My coworker has the least Spanish sounding name possible (his parents are German), but indeed he spent most of his childhood in Spain. I speak zero Spanish, and we never chat in Spanish...He was as freaked out as I was. 😱 @killyourfm
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3OqllcTnFl397Ysi by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T17:32:20Z
       
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       @mforester @sobfly If that was just a coincidental error, it's one of the creepiest I've ever seen....
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3PDDJOkVmSqicg9Q by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T17:36:28Z
       
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       @mforester @sobfly Truthfully, this seems like an opt-in experience. Unless you explicitly sign into and use GitHub copilot, it PROBABLY won't make an appearance?
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3RNGbrXhnjsiBHHs by slembcke@mastodon.gamedev.place
       2023-05-26T18:00:38Z
       
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       @killyourfm Despite having some conversations with folks, I don't get why people think this is a "last straw". Like it's all the same privacy nightmares as bing or cortana in the start menu, but this looks like it might _actually_ be useful compared to the former. To me it's just another feature many will want to turn off.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3Tw6FMGPJDmjOMSG by byteseb@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-26T18:29:22Z
       
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       @killyourfm I don't really like the idea of giving Microsoft your personal documents and let the AI read them. That's definitely a privacy nightmare
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3YZNYgEUkWaQPmrI by mforester@rollenspiel.social
       2023-05-26T19:21:16Z
       
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       @killyourfm @sobfly yeah, it might be that I overreacted. But then again I'm happy with where I ended up: far, far, far away from the bad AI stuff. 😅
       
 (DIR) Post #AW3YcRMsWcChGqM2qG by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-26T19:21:47Z
       
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       @byteseb agreed.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW4oh3xInCCeWxZrRA by ProfessorCode@fosstodon.org
       2023-05-27T09:42:24Z
       
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       @wiredfire @killyourfm I quite agree with you.The real issue here is the lack of transparency and possibly user choice. If anything, it's very likely this will be enabled by default and impossible to opt out of.I do think this will definitely become an integral part of the "Windows Experience" rather than just being a gimmick, though. It's quite powerful to be able to change system settings or crunch data by just asking Windows Copilot.It's amusing how Windows as a platform is changing.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW4oh4gK5oDQmadobw by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-27T09:56:38Z
       
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       @ProfessorCode @wiredfire Likewise, I agree with you. I bet we'll see it as completely optional for the first year or two. Then the ability to opt-out will become more and more hidden, until finally it's just a "feature" that's locked in and permanent.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW53IGpLIW8mWYUTM8 by wiredfire@mas.to
       2023-05-27T12:40:14Z
       
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       @killyourfm @ProfessorCode not unlike how signing in to Windows with a Microsoft account has become increasingly difficult to avoid. Thing is, I LIKE a lot of Microsoft things. I have an m365 sub that is fantastic value.. but I’m actively experimenting on a spare laptop about getting OneDrive working nicely on Linux Mint. Once I’m happy with that I’m likely going to hop back to The Penguin.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW57LREbSWxNUI4WfI by wiredfire@mas.to
       2023-05-27T12:43:07Z
       
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       @killyourfm @ProfessorCode though that said, I might like to keep my options open for playing Left 4 Dead 2.. shall have to look if that has Linux support on Steam 🤔
       
 (DIR) Post #AW57LS1AXxnxuunJMe by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-05-27T13:25:37Z
       
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       @wiredfire @ProfessorCode Play the native Linux build and you're good to go.
       
 (DIR) Post #AW59YX1jQzDD7pQGhM by wiredfire@mas.to
       2023-05-27T13:50:21Z
       
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       @killyourfm @ProfessorCode wonderful!
       
 (DIR) Post #AWBfj2ZAuqd2Cvn7gm by Kjaerulv@mastodon.social
       2023-05-30T17:19:06Z
       
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       @killyourfm 📎
       
 (DIR) Post #AWBfy3QryiAXEm48Uy by prefec2@norden.social
       2023-05-30T17:21:46Z
       
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       @killyourfm and for all these better than life features, we only want your soul and data. Oh and your money, of course.Also the video looks like the "Revenge of Clippy".
       
 (DIR) Post #AWOJIvndmOdzktBJq4 by xejt@linuxrocks.online
       2023-06-05T11:51:17Z
       
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       @killyourfm So, setting aside, the privacy nightmare that is Windows and speaking specifically to functionality, why would a copilot be a bad thing?  I would like to see this added to Linux.  I am new to using ChatGPT but at present, I love it.  I've solved a few problems that would have meant hours to days of internet searching and forum support otherwise.  AI has at the least made me more self sufficient as a Linux daily driver for personal use.Think about it from the standpoint of how many support and bug requests, or pull requests simply won't happen because now you have an AI helping you.  It can be a force multiplier.Now, in reference to privacy, I don't know if the Linux community in general might need to develop our own AI solution or leverage OpenAI /  ChatGPT.I'd like your opinion when you have time. Also, unrelated,  just bought a Steam Deck for Wifey.  Looking for cool open world games we could play together if we hook up to  a big screen. Would like some ideas.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWOJIwyfOt3fPNLdfE by killyourfm@layer8.space
       2023-06-05T19:39:09Z
       
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       @xejt bookmarking this so I can give you a proper reply when I have time.
       
 (DIR) Post #AWOJUfSCNY3cXCkTUO by xejt@linuxrocks.online
       2023-06-05T19:40:36Z
       
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       @killyourfm No rush. Youre busy making Thunderbird beautiful.  That's way more important. Thanks for all you do.