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 (DIR) Post #AVfCAnKwVv7gGRNWdM by bhaugen@social.coop
       2023-05-14T11:09:42Z
       
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       @adamgreenfield how do you want to proceed with your convivial stack vision?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCAnwsEtSqA57oky by adamgreenfield@social.coop
       2023-05-14T11:14:02Z
       
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       @bhaugen I think it’s first incumbent of me to flesh it out at appropriate length in this book I’m writing, using “case studies” or concrete historical examples wherever possible (including the #Lifehouse material). Then, if there’s sufficient interest, I’d like to help broker a series of conversations at the interfaces between relevant communities of practice, maybe even in the form of an event. We’ll see!
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCAoY60VEq1WXXm4 by bhaugen@social.coop
       2023-05-14T11:48:51Z
       
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       @adamgreenfield does a convivial stack as you see it require physical locations eg lifehouses? I also wonder if vacant churches is a UK phenomenon? I live inn the midwest US. Don't see many vacant churches, alas.#Lifehouse
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCApBncszu0f7Fey by adamgreenfield@social.coop
       2023-05-14T12:37:47Z
       
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       @bhaugen Well, a Lifehouse doesn’t have to be a church. It could be any structure that’s central enough to the local walkshed, physically and psychically, and capable of supporting the kind of infrastructure we’re talking about. Does a convivial stack require physical sites? I see the physical as one of its layers, in that we are invited and empowered to intervene in the construction, management and stewardship of the built fabric, the social environment and the technological surround.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCApY8HqrV7vZ5TE by adamgreenfield@social.coop
       2023-05-14T11:17:47Z
       
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       @bhaugen What I can already see is a need for someone to constantly be pushing back against the tendency of communities of practice to turn inward, to speak in jargon and use terms of art in ways that make perfect sense *for that community*, but are impenetrable and even hostile to people trying to build links to that community. All human groups are like this, and I make no judgement and cast no blame – but we need translators, facilitators, lubricators of connection.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCApe9vRgNQcNtrc by bhaugen@social.coop
       2023-05-14T12:51:06Z
       
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       @adamgreenfield for the physical layer we think of physical resource networks, for example "grain chains" around us, involving farmers, millers, bakers, brewers, cafes, grocers, food pantries, etc. Or https://fab.city/ or https://learndeep.org/
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCAqMpFNPZf9HZU8 by adamgreenfield@social.coop
       2023-05-14T16:38:44Z
       
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       @bhaugen My frustration with Fab City is proportionate to the amount of promise there. There's more to say than I can fully express here, only some of which worked its way into the chapter on digital fabrication in "Radical Technologies." A gut take — that I nevertheless hold lightly & am prepared to discard — is that they haven't prospered because distributed fab is still seen as a solution in search of a problem, and they haven't done a good enough job of connecting it to real-world struggles.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCAr0At4t3dBgzom by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
       2023-05-15T01:17:22Z
       
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       @adamgreenfield> distributed fab is still seen as a solution in search of a problemFair call. But I remember the net being seen this way until the late 90s, or even early noughties.The makerspaces fabricating ventilation gear during the height of the pandemic caught my interest, but as always with these cheerleading stories, the finer details are a bit more complicated. See the discussion here:https://talk.dallasmakerspace.org/t/3d-printing-ventillator-valves/70024@bhaugen
       
 (DIR) Post #AVfCAs6amhcB3NhdSa by adamgreenfield@social.coop
       2023-05-14T16:41:17Z
       
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       @bhaugen There is a famous story, which IIRC did make it into the book, that the original IAAC Fab Lab in Barcelona displaced a food bank desperately needed by the local community, and its proponents utterly failed to understand life as it was experienced by the people of the community in which they proposed to operate. Hopefully some lessons have been taken on board in the years since.