Post AVc8u2zKBdyWXvi37o by ksv236@mastodon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AVXpmJpN1ENUh8oan2 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
       2023-05-11T12:03:33.396529Z
       
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       #Telegram is not your friend and does not support free speech. They will censor on behalf of governments across the globe.RT: https://social.lansky.name/users/hn50/statuses/110349916978298188
       
 (DIR) Post #AVXza0Kwes3SJPLnkG by colinsmatt11@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-11T12:40:46.972192Z
       
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       @realcaseyrollins @hn50 No proprietary application can ever provide free speech even if they wanted to.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVYHdKLUWLZKPbL9SC by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-11T17:08:56.895256Z
       
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       @colinsmatt11 @realcaseyrollins @hn50 Not only is proprietary (and the client breaks GPL), it's very much confirmed that Telegram is a honeypot, they've been caught lying about how secure and private they are and how cops and glowies can't get any personal data from them, to this day, their FAQ still claims they disclosed 0 bytes of data to third parties, which is false.FAQ: https://telegram.org/faq#q-do-you-process-data-requestsArticle claiming that Telegram handed over user data to german cops over child abuse and terrorism investigations: https://www.cyberghostvpn.com/en_US/privacyhub/telegram-hands-data-to-authorities/
       
 (DIR) Post #AVYIAfsbTjEMkrjHXM by ringo@talk-here.com
       2023-05-11T17:21:38.196815Z
       
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       @sallyNULL @colinsmatt11 @hn50 @realcaseyrollins yeah telegram sucks.  signal too.  which is these days owned by twitter.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVYIGUUIkLI7A28THE by BowsacNoodle@poa.st
       2023-05-11T17:22:45.714414Z
       
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       @ringo @colinsmatt11 @sallyNULL @hn50 @realcaseyrollins Signal is owned by Twitter?
       
 (DIR) Post #AVYINld5PdIKLsiM5I by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-11T17:23:05.976113Z
       
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       @ringo @colinsmatt11 @hn50 @realcaseyrollins Correct opinion.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVYItfbNMHDevN7v28 by sallyNULL@gleasonator.com
       2023-05-11T17:26:39.469999Z
       
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       @BowsacNoodle @colinsmatt11 @hn50 @realcaseyrollins @ringo I don't think so, but they have their own fair share of issues. The fact it demands phone number when it has been proven to be unnecessary (see forks such as Session) and the drama they got involved with FDroid/preference to distribute only through Google Play Store are the main reasons I do not recommend Signal.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVYItgApETZkhJiEHw by ringo@talk-here.com
       2023-05-11T17:29:45.007857Z
       
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       @sallyNULL @colinsmatt11 @BowsacNoodle @hn50 @realcaseyrollins i may have gotten that wrong:https://www.inc.com/news/articles/201111/twitter-acquires-whisper-systems.htmljust read that
       
 (DIR) Post #AVc1BN0wBV7JwgDHIe by ksv236@mastodon.social
       2023-05-13T11:50:38Z
       
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       @realcaseyrollins @hn50 That's totally wrong accusationšŸ¤£ The problem arises cause the supported freedom of speech. Know the facts and dive deep please
       
 (DIR) Post #AVc1BNzuWntEzmjyL2 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
       2023-05-13T12:30:09.859758Z
       
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       @ksv236 @hn50 Oh Iā€™ve been following #Telegram for years, this is probably their mildest offense. They have literally turned users over to the police in multiple nations for what theyā€™ve said on their service.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVc4PUHwEfjqQGaXp2 by ksv236@mastodon.social
       2023-05-13T12:45:30Z
       
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       @realcaseyrollins @hn50 Telegram is used all over world (even in countries where it is banned), to escape surveillance and have freedom of speech.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVc8M4x2NinUmyRUAq by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
       2023-05-13T13:50:31.446580Z
       
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       @ksv236 I struggle to see where the line is between your position and that of an oppressive regime like #China.Which this attitude, why use #E2EE at all? It's concerning that you're saying only certain people deserve privacy.That said on the #Whatsapp front, that app is a joke and if you think it's private and secure you probably don't know much about private messaging on the internet. Give apps like #Tox and #Matrix a look.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVc8u2zKBdyWXvi37o by ksv236@mastodon.social
       2023-05-13T12:41:25Z
       
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       @realcaseyrollins @hn50 what they said matters. Telegram giving data on court orders about illegal activists and never the legit user data. Throughout the history, telegram never compromised ordinary user's data. Freedom of speech differs from promoting violence etc. And in case, if u think e2ee is better look at all those chat leaks and hacks occurred in WhatsApp though being e2ee. Freedom is for people and for those misusing it privacy is a luxury that should be restricted.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVc8u3u2mlLTNqFLX6 by realcaseyrollins@social.teci.world
       2023-05-13T13:56:41.054859Z
       
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       @ksv236 @hn50 Iā€™m guessing youā€™re one of those ā€œfreedom of speech so long as itā€™s speech I likeā€ people then? šŸ˜‚