Post AVXWTmhtWVy9dDlcB6 by woozle@toot.cat
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 (DIR) Post #AVXWTh68NTnGEf3t7w by woozle@toot.cat
       2023-05-07T17:33:18Z
       
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       So, am I reading this right?It seems to be claiming:Unless my ISP somehow authorizes email to be sent from my IP, Gmail will now bounce it.Unless I am hooked up with an email service that somehow has clout with Google, Gmail will bounce it.Since the "ISP" through whom I am attempting to send mail is #DigitalOcean, I find item #1 to be dubious. They are not blocking my outgoing mail port, and I have no problems sending to most recipients (Google and Microsoft being the only exceptions I'm aware of).DigitalOcean seems to encouraging its users to use a 3rd-party service -- but I'm already paying them for hosting, and managing my own email service; I don't want to pay yet another service just for the privilege of being allowed to send messages to Gmail's increasingly walled garden.Is it time to formally #boycottGmail?#boycott #Gmail #GoogleAddendum: follow-up post
       
 (DIR) Post #AVXWTlQqGQjbg2mTxY by andrewt@mathstodon.xyz
       2023-05-07T19:44:27Z
       
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       @woozle oh, this is absolutely something Gmail (and other large email providers) do.Problem is, of your want to boycott it, all that'll happen is that it'll be *your* emails that don't get through. You're all but boycotting email completely.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVXWTmhtWVy9dDlcB6 by woozle@toot.cat
       2023-05-07T19:46:48Z
       
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       @andrewt We have to draw a line somewhere.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVXWTnLb8tjDcMLK40 by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
       2023-05-11T08:09:51Z
       
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       @woozle @andrewt I agree w/putting MS & Google on the dark side of that line despite the fact that you lose reach to probably 90% of the population. But consider a simpler rationale: instead of digging into whether their config is malicious or yours is lacking, simply knowing that Google & MS harvest all #email they can & exploit it for #adSurveillance profits, that’s reason enough to boycott them
       
 (DIR) Post #AVXWTo5KOsJ9uBjqLI by koherecoWatchdog@freeradical.zone
       2023-05-11T08:13:40Z
       
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       @andrewt @woozle Suppose you send a msg to bob@gmail·com. Bob gets gratis #email from Google b/c Google snoops on the msgs. Google doesn’t just snoop on Bob. Google snoops on everyone Bob talks to. That means you. So by emailing Bob, you help pay Bob’s email bill by pawning yourself to #Google. Regardless of MX configurations, do you really want to support that model?  Simple decision for me.