Post AVRvYC7Jq4eIwAoGcy by MetalSamurai@mas.to
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 (DIR) Post #AVG4UozJwXTq1f138S by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-05-02T22:22:45Z
       
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       Despite only being validated in February, I think Group federation has been a smashing success for the Fediverse. I use Fediverse groups every day. And if you’re interacting with this post, so are you. Fediverse groups even make Mastodon that much more extensible despite Mastodon itself not officially supporting groups yet. https://codeberg.org/fediverse/fep/src/branch/main/feps/fep-1b12.md@fediversenews
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvY4ueclMKarpYPo by coloco@mastodon.social
       2023-05-02T22:26:52Z
       
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       @atomicpoet Federacion de Grupos?Podrías explicarlo mejor?, gracias.cc/ @p4g Mnnn, acabo de ver que >>>>> @fediversenews es un grupo tambien, pero repito, ¿como funcionan y para que sirven?cc/ @xikufrancesc
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvY5bC4bO2injWim by HistoPol@mastodon.social
       2023-05-07T00:21:04Z
       
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       @coloco@atomicpoetI second this, how can I use, Facebook like (?) Groups...a) on #Mastodon orb) on other #Fedi platforms. @p4g @fediversenews
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvY6BhsqasY2ogdM by MetalSamurai@mas.to
       2023-05-07T12:48:08Z
       
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       @HistoPol @coloco @atomicpoet @p4g @fediversenews It depends. On Friendica (and probably Hubzilla) groups look and behave just like Facebook groups. There’s a separate “Forums” section where groups live. Each one has posts that then have a dangling thread of replies. Replies go to on the end of the thread (and to anyone mentioned in the reply). When you look at them from Mastodon, they look like this fediversenews group and…
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvY70OqN8x5GXAeG by MetalSamurai@mas.to
       2023-05-07T12:50:34Z
       
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       @HistoPol @coloco @atomicpoet @p4g @fediversenews behave just like a bot that reflects every post that mentions it. Follow the bot and you receive all the group posts. As Mastodon is supposed to get built in group support soon, I hope this can be split out and presented better than the current jumble. In fact there’s another type of group that it is just a bot - the p4g group mentioned in this thread.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvY7tLY55zpgF3IG by MetalSamurai@mas.to
       2023-05-07T12:54:14Z
       
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       @HistoPol @coloco @atomicpoet @p4g @fediversenews  a.gup.pe just creates a new bot every time someone mentions it for the first time. You can then follow the bot and it will boost any mentions of itself just like a Friendica group. However I don’t think it supports moderation and the UX is pants. All I know about p4g is that it’s “a group about p4g”. Finding groups is a hit or miss affair - you have to guess the name.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvY8X3ASr3ooolBA by MetalSamurai@mas.to
       2023-05-07T12:56:29Z
       
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       @HistoPol @coloco @atomicpoet @p4g @fediversenews The current group UX on Mastodon is also a bit odd. For example, even if I remove the fediversenews “user” and don’t mention it in a reply, the reply will still be part of the group, boosted to all followers etc as normal. Not what a Mastodon user would expect.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYBKOlxW8URvCNM by jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
       2023-05-07T17:24:31Z
       
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       @Kevin Davidson This has nothing to do with Mastodon and everything with Friendica.On Friendica (and Hubzilla and (streams)), if you comment on a post (remember the start-post-and-comments structure), you don't have to mention the author of the post. They and everyone else who has the post itself in their timeline/stream will see your comment and everyone else's comments even without a single mention. You only need mentions if you comment on another comment, and even these may actually only be cosmetical.The reason why I keep adding mentions to my comments manually (with a little help from auto-complete) is to make sure that all users on ActivityPub projects involved in the thread receive them.@HistoPol @t̳̿͟͞o̳̿͟͞n̳̿͟͞i  :mastodon: @Chris Trottier
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYC7Jq4eIwAoGcy by MetalSamurai@mas.to
       2023-05-07T17:36:39Z
       
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       @jupiter_rowland I know, I use Friendica as well. Just pointing out that it looks strange to Mastodon users. I see Groups is listed on the Mastodon roadmap as MAS-15 and “in progress”. Maybe the new native groups support will help and it will be displayed in a way that makes it clearer.
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYCiBd08imW3i5o by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-07T19:24:52Z
       
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       @MetalSamurai @jupiter_rowland I've just had He Who Shall Not Be Named* explain that 1) I don't understand how the Fediverse works2) I don't understand how Mastodon worksand3) If I want to see a Friendica Group "correctly" I *must* log in from some Friendica instanceWhat I've been looking at all day in the attached screenshot is *not* "correct" -- apparently*I've promised I'd stop mentioning him in my posts as he insists he has no stake in this GroupOr somethingcc @FinchHaven
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYDNf8nJgr9Spk0 by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-07T19:45:15Z
       
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       @MetalSamurai @jupiter_rowland hmm...MastodonNodes: 12,485Users: 8,345,460FriendicaNodes: 343Users: 15,885Here: https://the-federation.info/#projects cc @fediversenews @FinchHaven
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYDxoyMEwfINi6K by MetalSamurai@mas.to
       2023-05-08T14:11:52Z
       
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       @FinchHaven @jupiter_rowland @fediversenews @FinchHaven But more than half of those Mastodon users appeared in the last 6 months and was pretty small for a long time before that. Friendica may be lesser known and quieter, but it’s the place to be if you prefer a Facebook style interface, or need to keep in touch with people on diaspora* (an even more insular community).
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYEjg6QWN3ilvhA by FinchHaven@mastodon.sdf.org
       2023-05-07T20:21:23Z
       
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       @MetalSamurai @jupiter_rowland @fediversenews And......I've now been apparently blocked by the instance admin Oh wellNo great loss, I'm sure
       
 (DIR) Post #AVRvYGk6do3HHczIdk by jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu
       2023-05-08T15:12:57Z
       
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       @Kevin Davidson @FinchHaven Also, Mastodon isn't so big because 10 million people willingly chose Mastodon instead of any of the other Fediverse projects.Mastodon is so big because 10 million Twitter users were RAILROADED HARD from Twitter to one specific Mastodon instance. They were never offered a choice. They weren't even told that there's more to the Fediverse than Mastodon. And many many Mastodon users, especially on the big, general-purpose instances, still don't know that. I still keep coming across people who have joined in November, and who are completely surprised to learn that the Fediverse is not only Mastodon half a year later.Mastodon isn't bigger because it's better. Mastodon is bigger because 99.99% of all newcomers to the Fediverse over the last 15 months believed there's nothing else. Again, many still believe that.