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(DIR) Post #AV8h4CrfP9nvCs3YvY by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T08:58:09.369901Z
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people be like>i can't use linux bc all my fav programs don't run on it :sad_cat: i'm like<i can't use windows bc all my fav programs don't run on it :sad_cat:
(DIR) Post #AV8hCrkTHc7mK3otlY by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2023-04-29T08:59:25.491676Z
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@mario I can't use linux on my main machine because I'm bound to break it like a dumbass
(DIR) Post #AV8hDBokfPQqZ7ybDM by PonyPanda@freespeechextremist.com
2023-04-29T08:59:48.176671Z
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@mario I can't use Linux because I'm lazy.
(DIR) Post #AV8hG8kqVm2jw0YZ28 by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:00:17.093817Z
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i do weekly incremental backups of my / and /home drives :blobcathappy:
(DIR) Post #AV8hNRkUI1vAs4sAro by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:01:37.162246Z
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windows is a bigger effort IMOespecially system backup and migration is a lot simpler
(DIR) Post #AV8hP8diJBtMBTVkO0 by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2023-04-29T09:01:40.475939Z
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@mario this machine is raw dogging it without backups and has the combined data hoard of all the previous laptops I had when I didn't have a desktop
(DIR) Post #AV8hQJ4T0g4apIa85A by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:02:09.085560Z
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and software acquisition! it's just one terminal prompt to get like everything :blobcathappy:
(DIR) Post #AV8hWU9giCoywOyCtU by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:03:15.934095Z
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how much data are we talking about? :blobcat3c:i finally have some stats of my filesystems:% duc info Date Time Files Dirs Size Path2023-04-26 10:40:39 499.2M 53.2M 169.7T /
(DIR) Post #AV8hecNxzni8mdWj7g by graf@poa.st
2023-04-29T09:04:43.928333Z
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@PonyPanda @mario
(DIR) Post #AV8hg0smOzST36bY5g by f_o_u_r_t_y@shrine.moe
2023-04-29T09:05:00.161092Z
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@mario @mer 1TB of gay porn
(DIR) Post #AV8hjhxeh2QTWXeAz2 by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:05:38.769586Z
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@f_o_u_r_t_y @mer more like about 20TB :blobcatgiggle2:
(DIR) Post #AV8hvI0J1lAYUgPQnY by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2023-04-29T09:07:26.667488Z
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@mario just about 700G but it's not the total weight, it's the mess it's inI half sorted the most important parts but in the end it's still basically a russian nesting doll with a whole ass previous machine in a folder, itself containing the whole ass previous machine and so onalso could be bigger but I deleted a few files of dubious usefulness I had hoarded like various leaks I downloaded in bulk, never to use just to have them
(DIR) Post #AV8iDfrB59EfgUuEqG by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:11:03.238968Z
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i have all my old systems in cold storage :blobcatgiggle2: my personal data always had been on separate hdds :blobcat3c:
(DIR) Post #AV8iE1qZK5ovsyn3wm by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-29T09:10:40Z
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@mario I can't use Windows because it tries to use the discrete GPU in this laptop that is fried so it crashes. And I'm clueless about how to tell it not to use it 🤷
(DIR) Post #AV8iFeudZ05TKqTEoK by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:11:24.579978Z
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you should be able to disable it in BIOS/UEFI settings :think_nyan:
(DIR) Post #AV8isaUXvxZcuypUI4 by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-29T09:18:09Z
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@mario Problem is, it's an old MacBook Pro, EFI in those didn't follow the UEFI spec. There is a way to tell EFI not to initialize this GPU and it's enough to get Mac OS X and linux running, but Windows seems to ignore it and tries to init it anyway. I'm sure there is a way to do it, like booting in safe mode and disabling it in Device Manager, but I'm to lazy to do it 😁 Void Linux runs just fine and is very power efficient — which is a nice thing for a laptop.
(DIR) Post #AV8ivdLBnVOCcguBRg by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:18:59.793815Z
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i think you'll also be moar happy with staying unix :blobcatuwu:
(DIR) Post #AV8k0FQeEFjHrbDrLE by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-29T09:30:46Z
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@mario Sure! I've been using linux since my teenage years and I'm very comfortable with it. It would be nice to have a laptop capable of running Ableton Live though. So I could make music when I'm not at home. Newer versions of macOS won't run on this laptop, so maybe I should just run an older release, it's the system this laptop came with after all so it's probably a better choice than Windows anyway. I should just stay off the Internet with that out of date software.
(DIR) Post #AV8k3Bgua8sd8kEPxY by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:31:35.492538Z
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you could try running Ableton through a VM, I did that when i played pokemon nuzlock with friends and it worked super well :blobcathappy:
(DIR) Post #AV8kLOwY37DhSBELZo by quad@akko.quad.moe
2023-04-29T09:34:31.706785Z
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@mario praise be to cygwin. I wouldn't survive at work without it
(DIR) Post #AV8kQ2HNjzPobuBXOa by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:35:43.242429Z
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i think i used it before to get git for windows :blobcat3c:
(DIR) Post #AV8katodY4tvXvv6AK by quad@akko.quad.moe
2023-04-29T09:36:49.127495Z
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@mario i use it regularly for ssh, openssl, git, rsync and maybe even qemu
(DIR) Post #AV8kctlOiJzLxnMGKe by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:38:01.181909Z
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i had the privilege of not needing to use windows for over 6 years now :blobcatgiggle2:
(DIR) Post #AV8l43innWW2fP5y5I by quad@akko.quad.moe
2023-04-29T09:38:58.287907Z
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@mario i wish there existed a non-office job in norway that let me use linux.It's all development, datacenter tech or fixing cisco switches all day
(DIR) Post #AV8l4onMmN5qfAamDw by sogga@sogga.top
2023-04-29T09:43:04.676403Z
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@quad @mario God bless Cygwin
(DIR) Post #AV8lAOXNJntAxlltKq by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T09:44:06.151222Z
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i'm very lucky with my job :blobcat3c: using linux is more or less imperative as our toolchain would be such a hassle to set up on windows and it would also break our tageting for the compilation platform
(DIR) Post #AV8lWKEG18gVyJHpLs by quad@akko.quad.moe
2023-04-29T09:47:46.650154Z
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@mario plenty of devs in norway use linux (or at least macs). but i prefer something with more fieldwork once in a while
(DIR) Post #AV8ovMPJM5oJpV5P60 by ayy@noagendasocial.com
2023-04-29T10:26:11Z
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@mario AUR afficionado?
(DIR) Post #AV8oxCtjgJssusCJLU by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T10:26:31.156887Z
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it even has a install script for matlab :blobcataww:
(DIR) Post #AV8p4G5uCEHCrAFhU8 by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-29T10:27:29Z
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@mario When you deal with audio, latency is very important, I think general purpose VMs are not up to task. On top of that, I'm fairly certain it's impossible to pass a Firewire device like my audio interface down to guest OS the same way you can with USB devices. I know for sure it wasn't implemented in Parallels Desktop because soon after VT-d was introduced which made something like that possible, Apple had released MacBook Air, which had no Firewire and no one cared about it anymore 😔
(DIR) Post #AV8pCQ1TANNtxw4Ioy by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T10:29:14.581805Z
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i'm pretty sure that it can be possible to get a close to 0 latency when using qemu/KVM and peripheral passthrough, but can't say for sure since i haven't tried it...also don't know about firewire sadly :sad_cat:
(DIR) Post #AV8pDKmY8WJo0AWgym by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-29T10:28:13Z
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@mario @EricZhang456 had been experimenting with running Windows DAWs in Linux using Wine and it worked quite well — I think that is what I should try. Running Wine would be problematic because I'm running a musl flavour of Void, but having a glibc chroot would probably do the trick… All right, I'm just a lazy ass 😄With tech, anything is possible, all the problems boil down to someone being lazy.
(DIR) Post #AV9HdlxiV9AQXr92VE by ayy@noagendasocial.com
2023-04-29T15:47:57Z
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@mario Scilab 4lyfe, viva comunismo software.
(DIR) Post #AV9Hj8HivwRJE33hmS by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-29T15:48:55.942375Z
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if i'm required to use matlab i don't really get much of a choice :sad_cat:
(DIR) Post #AV9IYGV894ipTbiAme by ayy@noagendasocial.com
2023-04-29T15:58:11Z
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@mario If someone else pays for it, fine. There's few things scilab doesn't do.
(DIR) Post #AVAdOEzLCuQC5Irb2O by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T07:25:53.637270Z
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@m0xee @mario I was going to write a reply on this yesterday but I forgot about it so I am going to do it now.My primary DAW is FL Studio. It works super well under Wine. Everything works out of the box. I also tried Ableton Live, also works really well but the left mouse button sometimes won't register and some parts of the UI will take really long to render. I haven't tried Pro Tools but I am almost certain that it wouldn't run as it requires driver-level DRM. For VST plugins I only have Kontakt installed for now. The library doesn't work so you can only load instruments through the "Load..." menu command. For the Linux-native alternatives I tried Ardour and REAPER. Haven't really figured out how to use both so I can't give a comment on that but they work. Both Ardour and REAPER don't come with instruments on their own so I installed Calf Studio Gear but the synth that comes with Calf is completely borked for me. But good luck finding plugins that work natively anyway.
(DIR) Post #AVAe9LrBUKVIzsVpMO by charlie_root@annihilation.social
2023-04-30T07:34:52.164603Z
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@EricZhang456 @mario @m0xee Yo let's hear some Eric Zhang tracks, I want some quality dubs :dance:
(DIR) Post #AVAjwFxyg1gegkpSIi by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T08:39:43.981444Z
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@charlie_root @mario @m0xee I don't actually have anything at the moment
(DIR) Post #AVAmIE8ANlBlH5CNdY by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-30T09:06:06.430284Z
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But you didn't try running it in a VM? :think_nyan: I am really excited to know how it would holds up in terms of latency but i am too tactless to try it myself :sad_cat:
(DIR) Post #AVApgN4n4f5lpap9km by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T09:43:38.637622Z
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@mario @m0xee I haven't. VMs are super slow since I don't have a GPU for the VM.
(DIR) Post #AVAwoNKai4hycKyj0i by m0xEE@breloma.m0xee.net
2023-04-30T11:03:48.735014Z
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@EricZhang456 I have heard a lot of great things about Reaper, but I'm not sure if it holds for the Linux version. I have never tried using it for anything serious myself, but it looks like a decent DAW, but yes, it's very barebones — there is not much to do there without plugins and I'm pretty sure getting native ones would be a challenge.Same for Fruity Loops — I have never tried using it myself, but I was just blown away when someone demonstrated it to me in early 2000s: "Was this really done by a single person?" That was true at the time. It looks very versatile, but the problem with it is that it makes all your tracks sound alike — no, not everyone using it sounds the same way, but all tracks composed by one person sound alike. This was the case with my friend. Later I have encouraged him to try Live and helped with it a lot, I have been using it a lot while we were making music together so he eventually switched and… magically his sound became diverse! I don' know what's wrong with FL, I know it's highly customizable and versatile, you can even assign functions to any control (unlike Live, where you can only have envelopes). Probably something with its UI that it doesn't encourage people to use all that, either this or it's too versatile so they get lost.Live is perfect in this regard, its UI is VERY simple it encourages you to play around with it and not get lost. They did make it more complex in recent versions and while all of that were useful instruments and functions, I think it was a mistake. It's also mostly self-contained — of course you can use external instruments (VSTs, AUs), but built-in ones are decent and I ended up using only them with very few exceptions, moslty homebrew Max4Live stuff and a few developed by others.> I don't actually have anything at the momentYou have to be so uptight, I think those were just words of encouragement from @charlie_root 😅@mario Sorry for using different account for reply, I use my own Pleroma for longer replies as it doesn't have a five hundred character limit. And sorry for hijacking your thread 😅@m0xee
(DIR) Post #AVAx2iy145TNm3GGO0 by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-04-30T11:06:34.577410Z
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>hijacking my threadawwww :blobcatgiggle2:you didn't hijack it, you turned a shitpost into a reasonable and interesting discussion :hug:
(DIR) Post #AVAxIxDjq1nSc8M1Ym by katkat@shitpost.poridge.club
2023-04-30T11:09:22.449Z
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@EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network @m0xee@social.librem.one @mario@hornyjail.pro Both Ardour and REAPER don't come with instruments on their ownwe have pacman -S pro-audio tho and it has absolutely everything (that's free as in freedom ofc)
(DIR) Post #AVAyfKOwQvvWpgpKlc by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T11:24:44.645962Z
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@katkat @m0xee @mario wow
(DIR) Post #AVAzyQwSRKHoZfB64O by m0xEE@breloma.m0xee.net
2023-04-30T11:39:21.867742Z
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@EricZhang456 When we speak of multiplatform DAWs, let us not forget about Bitwig Studio. AFAIK the company was founded by a former Ableton developer, so they are "spiritual siblings". To me it seemed like a middle ground between Live and FL Studio — more complex than the former, but easier to use than the latter. It did look interesting, but wasn't yet quite there for primetime use and not worth shelling out extra $$$ — that's another reason I'm going to stay with Live for a while: I'm broke now, I still have my Live 10 license, but I don't have FL Studio or Bitwig one, so it'll be either Live or some free software.Anyway, I had checked it out long time ago, when it just came out and I'm pretty sure much has changed so it's worth looking into. Problem is, looks like Bitwig now comes as a Flatpak (or this other one, I don't even remember what's it called) — I know, it's possible to install software packaged this way in Void, but I'm not sure I'm personally up to this.@charlie_root @m0xee @mario
(DIR) Post #AVB09pIAFN8tHQlOvA by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T11:41:27.570065Z
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@m0xEE @charlie_root @mario @m0xee I am actually using a cracked version of FL Studio 20
(DIR) Post #AVB0EWwHuT91o8m3MW by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T11:42:20.505886Z
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@m0xEE @charlie_root @m0xee @mario It's a Flatpak btw. Just checked it.
(DIR) Post #AVB0P1ekYivdyGZjuK by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T11:44:12.597829Z
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@charlie_root @m0xEE @m0xee @mario Sure looks like Ableton Live!
(DIR) Post #AVB4u3Lmi57E1EksBk by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-30T12:31:34Z
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@EricZhang456 Exactly! Like Live in which UI was shuffled around a bit 😄But they have definitely kept the session view that was groundbreaking for Live. Most music, unlike videos, does have a strong structure and that grid is a better representation of that than the timeline. Some use Live and only use arrangement view that is typical to all DAWs, never switching to session view — well, their loss 🤷 @charlie_root @m0xEE @mario
(DIR) Post #AVB4u3yQOQ1Xx4pjPs by EricZhang456@pl.starnix.network
2023-04-30T12:34:32.977196Z
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@m0xee @charlie_root @m0xEE @mario I never really liked the session view... I started out with GarageBand and Logic Pro X on my Mac.
(DIR) Post #AVB9dLezsf69ebayhs by m0xee@social.librem.one
2023-04-30T12:42:23Z
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@EricZhang456 Sure, matter of habit. And other DAWs don't have anything like it so there is no way to get this habit elsewhere. But once you get used to it it gets fluent, you start thinking in terms of structuring your tracks this way and that is a huge boost to productivity, moving colored squares around is easier than moving waveforms around the timeline, adding another instrument part is a matter of couple of clicks and it's really hard to mess up this way.@charlie_root @m0xEE @mario
(DIR) Post #AVDDAZZtqNnsYPfJFA by sanfierro@pony.social
2023-05-01T13:16:20Z
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@mario I'm laughing at the instance name, not the post itself, thanks anyway tho! On topic: it would be nice to have something like WSL, where, for example, an existing Windows partition can be used as a virtual machine with all the necessary seamless and safe integration of hard disk partition and other data stuff and graphical stuff like giving the whole GPU to the guest os or integrating windows, desktop icons, UAC, tray icons, etc
(DIR) Post #AVDDMGIbLfkUEi9ER6 by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-05-01T13:18:49.742849Z
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the fact that wine doesn't support containerization is really bad actually :blobcatsweat: i want to be able to try out cracks without the fear of all my mounted and accessible filesystems getting encrypted :sad_cat:
(DIR) Post #AVDFs4Gpo08e6bcDpI by sanfierro@pony.social
2023-05-01T13:45:17Z
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@mario Containerization on what level? Does it support Sandboxie (a Windows sandbox tool)?
(DIR) Post #AVDFvOmA1Xb8ZPr9Fo by mario@hornyjail.pro
2023-05-01T13:47:35.506845Z
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@sanfierro I was thinking about something like sandboxie but built into wine :blobcat3c:
(DIR) Post #AVDHOYFzx4BsKOHGoi by sanfierro@pony.social
2023-05-01T14:02:10Z
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@mario There definitely should be something like that. Maybe one day