Post AUrk74oEo7NXGeC5bM by Montag@linuxrocks.online
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(DIR) Post #AUrk74oEo7NXGeC5bM by Montag@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T03:56:20Z
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Hello people. I need a new #computer and would like advice.I mainly use my computer for browsing the web, watching videos, and small programming projects (my day job is as an embedded developer).I will only run #Linux and would rather not have to buy a Windows license.I mainly use my current laptop at my desk, attached to a keyboard, mouse and external monitor.I don't live in America. Electronics are expensive here - about 1.5x the price in the US. On the other hand, I often know people traveling from America who can bring things.I'm leaning towards building a simple desktop locally, possibly ordering extra RAM from America, and upgrading it as needed in the future.Does anyone have suggestions? I haven't physically put a computer together since around 2000. I hear #AMD is more future-proof than #Intel but don't know anything about specific part models
(DIR) Post #AUrk75SIPBQBGsw52W by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T04:42:11Z
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@Montag My newest computer uses parts from like 2018, but at least at the time, I believe that AMD was more future proof and better value for the money. I haven't been following super close for the last year or two, but I think that's still the case. I don't know if this is the case where you live, but here at least, buying parts a few years old can save a lot of money, and My Ryzen 7 2700 still kicks ass imo, so I'd look into these slightly older parts if money is tight. The most recent generation of AMD CPUs use a new motherboard, but the last generation are plenty powerful, even for super intensive workloads. As well, the previous generation uses much cheaper and more plentiful parts (DDR4 instead of the new DDR5, less expensive motherboards, normal ATX power supplies vs modern boards are starting to use less common ATX12VO power supplies)I would recommend getting Ryzen 2000 or later though, as the first generation were known to be a little finicky with ram and drivers iirc
(DIR) Post #AUrkWRxrqyjMK1nUUy by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T04:46:46Z
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@Montag Ryzen 1000 is still good, the later generations are just easier to work with.Also, if you don't need super powerful graphics, AMD's APUs are great value imo, and still do have decent enough graphics unless you're doing a lot of modern gaming, or GPU accelerated workloads such as CGI or AI.I don't know if any of this was helpful, but feel free to ask questions, I'll do my best to answer them!
(DIR) Post #AUrnl59fF2Cdmjz3Ls by Montag@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T05:23:02Z
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@OpenComputeDesign thanks for all that info.I figure I'd start with a more recent motherboard, that way it would be easier to upgrade the CPU and other parts in a few years. I don't need a dedicated GPU at this time though I'd like the possibility of adding one in the future, should my uses change.
(DIR) Post #AUrrJe36JPOliR5PBg by Montag@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T05:24:47Z
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@OpenComputeDesign looking just at RAM prices I see a big difference between DDR4 and 5. That alone might make it worth going with the older generation.
(DIR) Post #AUrrJebUFYu7R5Armi by Montag@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T05:29:21Z
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@OpenComputeDesign as I said, I haven't built a computer in a long time.Do case and power supply requirements change? If I got a computer now, can I assume that the housing will be enough for the next decade?
(DIR) Post #AUrrJf0ejz2Mh8wy12 by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-21T06:02:53Z
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@Montag Regarding motherboards, just about anything AM4 should be fine for previous generations of AMD Ryzen, but the newest generation will require AM5. But as I've said, I think AM4 will suffice for a long time to come, and be much cheaper.For power supplies, Normal ATX PSUs are still the norm, though ATX12VO is starting to gain popularity. Still, a good standard ATX psu of sufficient wattage should be relevant for a long time. I recommend getting a PSU of higher wattage than you need at the moment, as the power requirements of some components do seem to be on the rise. As for a case, the majority are still standard ATX or mATX, and it doesn't look like that's likely to change any time soon. APUs are nice, because they have decent integrated graphics, but are still great CPUs when paired with a dedicated GPU. Although they do tend to maxout at roughly mid range CPUs, so if a lot of CPU performance is needed, a dedicated CPU and GPU may be required. But both use the same boards.
(DIR) Post #AV5dMpEwTwyg9Cgc2S by Montag@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-27T21:32:33Z
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@OpenComputeDesign I think I found the parts to put together a good machine for me: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/sy3XKpMy only concern is that the Ryzen 5 5600G I found doesn't include the fan.1. How important is a CPU fan? The case will be a standard tower that a coworker offered for free.2. Assuming I need a cooling solution, what would you suggest?
(DIR) Post #AV5l9qkyKba8igzY9I by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-27T22:59:50Z
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@Montag Is it missing the heatsink too, or just the fan? I'd also make sure the case has at least one case fan. If you need fans, just about anything should do so long as it's the right size for the mounting holes. Although I personally like noctua fans, though they are a little pricey.As for a cooler if you need a heatsink as well, I've heard very good things about the cooler master hyper 212 evo (v2 if you can find it), but anything similar should work. You can probably also find an AMD wraith stealth cooler for pretty cheap used. Though, you may want something larger if you don't want to have to upgrade the cooler if you move to a hotter CPU. In which case I recommend a large Noctua cooler if you can afford it.
(DIR) Post #AV6IPPhVzMRPvdP5hw by Montag@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-28T05:12:00Z
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@OpenComputeDesign it's just a bare chip, without a heat sink either.I looked around a bit and ordered a Wraith cooler from AliExpress. I'm trying to save money and don't need to spend more on a cooling system than I spent on the motherboard.Thanks again