Post AUkySj0EbQbVG5Ipc0 by tenet@defcon.social
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 (DIR) Post #AUkJpTcbrJYi5vyzGS by sundogplanets@mastodon.social
       2023-04-17T14:25:46Z
       
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       Once again, I'm reminded of how much the billionaire space race has absolutely destroyed my love of rockets.10 years ago, I definitely would have been paying close attention to the current giant SpaceX launch.  But because I know it's going to be used to launch hundreds of unregulated, unsafe, polluting, for-profit Starlink satellites at once, I just can't look.Instead of being excited and awestruck by a new gigantic rocket launch, it just makes me want to puke.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkMwQ8RWIdLAesJcm by Moon@shitposter.club
       2023-04-17T15:19:32.540972Z
       
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       @sundogplanets Twitter Man bad government good, except when government approve Twitter Man satellites
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkSpoWr1elqWaWgq0 by fcktheworld587@social.linux.pizza
       2023-04-17T16:25:34Z
       
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       @sundogplanets it's heartbreaking
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkjxkbzAjqpufISie by zleap@qoto.org
       2023-04-17T19:36:56Z
       
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       @sundogplanets Those star link satellites are alrady causing huge problems for astronomy,  apparently even getting in the way of hubble.   We need some sort of international body to regulate space or the use of space.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkuao49GKGnSfjQ2q by joostvb@mastodon.green
       2023-04-17T16:13:31Z
       
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       @sundogplanets  found out about https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starlink#Impact_on_astronomy  , tnx !
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkuaocXCTm9BJosds by FreePietje@x0f.org
       2023-04-17T21:36:37Z
       
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       @joostvb @sundogplanets That page is harrowing 😱 I read that as:Starlink: "We can reserve you a time slot when we allow you to look at the sky" (now sing our praise)WTAF ?!?
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkxrTI63YKXoXtTkG by didek@101010.pl
       2023-04-17T22:13:16Z
       
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       @sundogplanets Wasting so much man power, resources and emiting huge amount of CO², to give you Internet connection without real IP address and with router that must be managed by their stupid app from Google Play.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUky8o1cDitR2jRzns by MacropodCare@mastodon.au
       2023-04-17T22:16:12Z
       
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       @zleap @sundogplanets That would need capitalists to let their governments agree with one another. I won't be holding my breath on that one.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkyL0LcEO5qjgcdw8 by didek@101010.pl
       2023-04-17T22:18:35Z
       
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       @sundogplanets Wasting so much man power and resources, bloating the orbit with 12000 private sattelites and emiting huge amount of CO².For Internet connection without real IP address and with router that forces you to use proprietary software.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkySiMB0MYrFqYqAq by luke@home.social
       2023-04-17T17:53:52Z
       
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       @sundogplanets I can read this message in the most remote part of rural Utah because of those satellites. Instead of not caring about rocket launches at all, now they effect my life in a positive way. You may not like for profit companies... but not-for-profit companies don't have a super great record of building the best rockets ever created. Federally funded NASA doesn't even try anymore and hasn't produced anything meaningful in like 60 years.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkySj0EbQbVG5Ipc0 by tenet@defcon.social
       2023-04-17T19:35:28Z
       
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       @luke @sundogplanets What do you mean "anymore?" NASA has never produced space program rockets in-house, they were all built under contract.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkySjPl4X1KXFFDOa by didek@101010.pl
       2023-04-17T22:19:59Z
       
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       @tenet @luke @sundogplanets Private contracts, but for public benefit and global goals.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUkyZkqk8O4j0uDPLk by didek@101010.pl
       2023-04-17T22:21:16Z
       
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       @tenet @luke @sundogplanets Under contracts, but for public benefit and global goals. Not for Starlink®.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUl3gddFroBoQW0YVs by luke@home.social
       2023-04-17T23:18:31Z
       
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       @didek @tenet @sundogplanets starlink provides global benefits and infrastructure for a variety of worldwide goals. It enables a whole lot of people to access the internet where it was previously not available. I benefit from starlink. I'm public. It's not free, but neither is anything.They're launching satellites because of demand. The public is willing to pay for this.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUl3utcnCh4q54afWS by luke@home.social
       2023-04-17T23:21:06Z
       
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       @didek @tenet @sundogplanets Also, every other country on earth might disagree that a US government agency like NASA was working for global goals.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUlH4p864P1mRJIT3I by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
       2023-04-18T01:48:34Z
       
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       @sundogplanets please expand on unregulated, unsafe and polluting.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUlgEgZzDCJvfh8osK by zleap@qoto.org
       2023-04-18T06:30:28Z
       
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       @MacropodCare @sundogplanets So what can the science community do about this,  spacex is driven by profitterring from space,  NASA et al are going to the moon for science reasons.The only reason to send celebrities around the moon is so they can boost their already huge egos further.  I see zero scientific benefit to that.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUllYP9wBlMBCrBAyO by MacropodCare@mastodon.au
       2023-04-18T07:29:55Z
       
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       @zleap @sundogplanets More tickets crash on launch than planes crash on takeoff. If we all pray fervently, who knows how lucky we might be...
       
 (DIR) Post #AUlm5tdpsSnNIl8MnQ by zleap@qoto.org
       2023-04-18T07:36:07Z
       
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       @MacropodCare @sundogplanets Tickets?
       
 (DIR) Post #AUlq96C24DwoumuaJM by MacropodCare@mastodon.au
       2023-04-18T08:21:20Z
       
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       @zleap @sundogplanets Apologies. Rockets. I fixed it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUmFVucFm42CWX9RWC by zleap@qoto.org
       2023-04-18T13:04:50Z
       
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       @MacropodCare @sundogplanets No problem,  but yeah good point  we need a safe way to get there, and back again on a regular basis and some how make sure we have a ready supply of fuel at the moon end.
       
 (DIR) Post #AUoAQlUo9007KsJa9w by didek@101010.pl
       2023-04-19T11:18:10Z
       
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       @tenet @luke @sundogplanets Ugh, this thread turned bad.My worries are just from having too big global ISPs, like with T-Mobile, Verizon, etc.Because first they innovate, then they start to become gatekeepers to in theory free world of Internet.See: IPv6 adoption, CGNAT, blocking port 25, allowing incoming connections only for business, blocking Tor...
       
 (DIR) Post #AUoAXmjjvfPlD9e9KK by didek@101010.pl
       2023-04-19T11:19:31Z
       
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       @tenet @luke @sundogplanets Ugh, this thread turned bad.My worries are just from having too big global ISPs, like with T-Mobile, Verizon, etc.Because first they innovate, then they start to become gatekeepers to in theory free world of Internet.See: IPv6 adoption, CGNAT, blocking port 25, allowing incoming connections only for business, blocking Tor...So we use much limited resources for feeding some big monster.No matter for me is this is Elon's company or not.