Post AUgyev6R0GoZaeSPmS by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #AUe6UtA3aFRwpd01rM by skanman@qoto.org
2023-04-14T14:47:03Z
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So I've been reading so much from the intelligent community here, however I'm noticing the community is intelligent through a scientific spectrum and not really subject to unbiased perspectives when it comes to current events. Where are the middle of the road people?
(DIR) Post #AUe6yqqojo3EM0HtpI by trinsec@qoto.org
2023-04-14T14:52:28Z
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@skanman I guess the middle of the road people have less of a strong opinion and won't express them as quickly?
(DIR) Post #AUgyev6R0GoZaeSPmS by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2023-04-16T00:03:12Z
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@skanman To be sure what you meant: intellicence or intelligent? It would be prudent to expect infosec here, intelligence would not make much sense. But "intelligent" community, i have no idea what that would mean. People not mentally handicapped?
(DIR) Post #AUiZKuTXB5GnLxGRyy by skanman@qoto.org
2023-04-16T18:29:01Z
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@admitsWrongIfProven When you say people not mentally handicapped.. do you mean like the handicap in golf that adjusts for the average of previously played games, or the definition that is generally accepted as a disability?
(DIR) Post #AUiZja3uD9rvHX2aS8 by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2023-04-16T18:33:30Z
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@skanman I wanted to know if you are talking about a community of people concerned with spy stuff or about a community of people that are (or you judge to be) very intelligent. How exactly intelligence is determined is not what i'm after, just do you mean spy stuff or not.
(DIR) Post #AUiiHsQjDzenjEa3dY by skanman@qoto.org
2023-04-16T20:09:17Z
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@admitsWrongIfProven Lol, I don't mean spy stuff, I mean a community of academics 🙂
(DIR) Post #AUiiM33HftnTpWbUYK by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2023-04-16T20:10:05Z
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@skanman Ah ok. I mean qoto is explicitly meant for scientific stuff, i guess you would need to peak in federated?
(DIR) Post #AUiicSXwedbfX7lq2S by skanman@qoto.org
2023-04-16T20:13:03Z
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@admitsWrongIfProven Well I'm kind of fascinated by Qoto, I would have guessed a community of academics would be more middle of the road however they seem to be leaning far left in generality. I stay away from the federated timeline, it gives me anxiety 😂
(DIR) Post #AUiiy5JRiZo7qUIh7I by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2023-04-16T20:16:56Z
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@skanman Yeah, i can understand the anxiety. Some stuff is ... right-leaning? Not sure how to say it, but there is some malicious stuff to find in federated, i know. I wonder what you mean exactly with leaning left, i see a lot of trans acceptance, a lot of wishes for better climate action, all reasonable things. So if those things are left, i wonder if anything not left would be bad, by definition? Or is it more that you want to see all kinds of opinions, not matter if they make sense?
(DIR) Post #AUino0iYRliQTA3oO0 by skanman@qoto.org
2023-04-16T21:11:09Z
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@admitsWrongIfProven Well I'm one of those all things in moderation people. I find myself liberal. I agree that there's climate change, and that people should have the rights to believe whatever they like. I also understand the comfort of community, to feel supported or be part of something greater than one's self. I think there's nothing wrong with being conservative or liberal. But both sides seem to over step their boundaries both politically, and socially these days when it comes to their views. On the liberal side: enforcing people to accept the plethora of genders and identities should be a preference and not a requisite. Health care is too expensive but mandating people pay for it with penalty if not is an extreme. On the conservative side, taking away people's right to decide on abortions, would be a good example there. Both sides are not moving towards a more free society, yet a more controlled society in their preference. There seems to be no community for moderates. While Qoto is actually one of the most moderate I've seen, it's still slightly left in general. I've been wandering from country to country the past 8 years and I'm fascinated by when I subtract cultural attributes from different places, what is the human nature that remains. Also meeting people online from different places and subtracting their online persona from their real persona to see what they project about themselves to the net. Getting an idea of who they wish they were. Some people are pretty identical but most are quite different. I'd given up on humanity some time ago, so now I'm examining in great detail what exactly I'm giving up, and what the chain of causality is that led to today's world. Upon traveling the world and the internet I've definitely found some gems. I treasure them more than gems.
(DIR) Post #AUiqFeOnDkPbGX7muO by admitsWrongIfProven@qoto.org
2023-04-16T21:38:32Z
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@skanman I would say you can find opposing/different views here. Just recently, there was a discussion where multiple people were in favour of deregulating guns as far as possible. For the plethora of pronouns, i really cannot say. I feared i would be pushed there at first, but that has not materialized. A general "they" here and there, maybe refer to someone by name because i don't know, but that was it. Can't say how generalizable that experience is. This all seems quite usa-centric though. I mean our healthcare systems has problems, big ones, but oh my the american way of "let the poor die of preventable causes", it sounds horrible to me. But even looking at more than the usa, i must agree it seems like a move toward more rigid rules, not toward working together for a better world. Our politicians are hard at work on another round of data retention without cause - welcome back, Stasi!