Post AUeFkIPWt6bn4aesC0 by isucceed@mastodon.online
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(DIR) Post #AUcv50GTG1B4gCUgoi by rbreich@masto.ai
2023-04-14T00:41:08Z
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Firearms are now the leading cause of death for Americans ages 24 years and under. It really, truly, genuinely, does not have to be this way.
(DIR) Post #AUcv50lJPLqcDqvJtA by justinz@social.opendesktop.org
2023-04-14T01:04:24Z
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@rbreich This is Australia and it's still too high..
(DIR) Post #AUd1T1pVgnAWD0irk8 by jeff@federated.fun
2023-04-14T02:15:50.816691Z
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@rbreich sounds like we need to teach basic gun safety in public schools to me.
(DIR) Post #AUd2TcLE2XxxOxOyrA by ZhiZhu@newsie.social
2023-04-14T02:24:43Z
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@rbreich No one tried to prevent the safety regulations that were implemented on cars in order to save lives.Why does the GOP continue to prevent even mild safety regulations being implemented on guns? Do they just not care about saving lives?#Guns #GunViolence #GunSafety
(DIR) Post #AUd2TehdGD4sj1tu3k by jeff@federated.fun
2023-04-14T02:27:09.188328Z
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@ZhiZhu @rbreich the federal gov isn't terrified of telling people they need a driver's license because there are no consequences if there is or is not a driver's license mandate.
(DIR) Post #AUd2YolxFUfpP6NsDw by jeff@federated.fun
2023-04-14T02:28:10.585312Z
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@ZhiZhu @rbreich the neolibs really didn't learn a gd thing from Afghanistan did they?
(DIR) Post #AUdqWaSYUL2G8sRKsK by tantramar@nojack.easydns.ca
2023-04-14T01:00:52Z
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@rbreich finally the cars makers have something to shoot for.
(DIR) Post #AUeDfnCykviXEYVr28 by biciuc@urbanists.social
2023-04-14T01:01:06Z
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@rbreich ok, but it also doesn't have to be that motor vehicle crashes kill so many people either.
(DIR) Post #AUeDfnouTu3h8CG99k by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-14T16:07:25Z
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@biciuc @rbreich Oh thank god, I was honestly getting worried I wasn't gonna find this comment. Those firearm numbers are terrible, but so are those car numbers. And _both_ are clearly on the rise.I think people mostly get complacent about cars because the rate of car deaths _was_ going down. (Although, I've been studying this actually, and pretty much, it drops significantly every ten to twenty years, then stagnates for a long time. And now was actually the time when it should have gown down again, but back up it goes!)Additionally, children are actually getting killed in ways by cars now that actually wasn't such a problem in the past.
(DIR) Post #AUeDyAMbP7BmGEm7fM by peltast@mstdn.ca
2023-04-14T01:34:33Z
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@rbreich Really remarkable that the primary means by which this feat was accomplished was by impoverishing enough young people, starting in 2008, that a lot of them can't afford cars and therefore can't die in them.
(DIR) Post #AUeDyB4Cn04ERTAwd6 by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-14T16:10:47Z
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@peltast @rbreich Oh right. I just posted a reply in this thread addressing the graph for cars, but I forgot this aspect. Cars looked to get safer, but only because fewer people could afford them. Now the rates are going back up because modern cars are so dangerous for pedestrians. These trends for firearms are terrible, but cars are still arguably a bigger problem.
(DIR) Post #AUeEqRK8YvdoV2VAVE by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-14T16:20:33Z
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@ZhiZhu @rbreich First of all, yes, lots of people did try to prevent safety features in cars. Second of all, since the 80s or 90s, most new car safety features have not had a significant impact on car deaths, emission standards mostly work by reducing the number of poor who can drive when the rich are responsible for most emissions, and guns are generally the most regulated they've ever been, and yet firearm deaths are still on the rise. And where I live at least, most gun deaths are suicides. It certainly does suggest that other aspects of the world right now _do_ go a long way to explain the high rate of firearm related deaths.
(DIR) Post #AUeFkIPWt6bn4aesC0 by isucceed@mastodon.online
2023-04-14T04:58:42Z
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@rbreich 3(a). If your answer to #3 involves some kind of prohibition, please explain what specifically you would do to guarantee the outcome would be different from the other two major attempts at prohibition in the nation's history - both of which were abject failures resulting in more loss of life, crime, corruption, violence, economic damage - and ended in the humiliated government begrudgingly surrendering in a "war" that it had declared on the freedoms of its own citizens.
(DIR) Post #AUeFkJ9G95BjMQ3OTI by OpenComputeDesign@linuxrocks.online
2023-04-14T16:30:14Z
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@isucceed @rbreich Excellent points IMO, and I'd also like to point out that a significant portion of firearm deaths are in fact to do with the "war on drugs". Additionally, if the idea is that banning guns makes it impossible for people to kill eachother, one on one, a crowbar can kill almost as easily, and leave someone majorly screwed up even easier, and one on many, there are many methods which are vastly more effective.
(DIR) Post #AUfGCKGtl0ik6uwlFo by isucceed@mastodon.online
2023-04-15T04:10:25Z
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@OpenComputeDesign @rbreich Banning things is a time-worn strategy for directing State violence against the scapegoat out-group of anyone who can fan the flames of prejudice and muster votes. Right now, in MI, the supposed party of woke is (anti-science) scapegoating and turning State violence against anyone with any history of mental health challenges.And, RATHER THAN helping them, or addressing the systemic causes of the proliferation of mental health issues in our society.