Post AUY1SMppfDP4MazaDo by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
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(DIR) Post #AUXhQF3XcHBcZj76e0 by augieray@mastodon.social
2023-04-10T23:25:56Z
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The kind of person who trusts a child with a firearm but not a book is the kind of person who shouldn't be elected to any office.
(DIR) Post #AUXhQFelNsxcRAWpf6 by Computeforloot@twit.social
2023-04-11T00:42:59Z
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@augieray no one with half a fucking brain and a child of any age, leaves a loaded weapon outside of a gun safe 🤬
(DIR) Post #AUXhQG8tZr3zwcctd2 by atomic@universeodon.com
2023-04-11T03:15:21Z
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@Computeforloot @augieray I don't leave a loaded gun outside of my safe, and I DON'T have any children. If I am not carrying my gun, it is in my safe. I live alone and do it. Why is it so hard for families with children?
(DIR) Post #AUXhQGo16xxO09rjiy by Computeforloot@twit.social
2023-04-11T03:27:51Z
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@atomic @augieray morons, I guess! I remove a loaded handgun from the safe every evening to put on my bed table…in the morning it goes back in the safe. We’re retired, no kids in the house! When grandkids are over, the firearms STAY IN THE DAMN SAFE!! SMFH
(DIR) Post #AUXhQHM34RB9hhmulk by Benevans@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T09:56:30Z
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@Computeforloot @atomic @augieray Is it that unsafe in America that you need a gun next to your bed?
(DIR) Post #AUXhQI7YDpB0520qoK by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
2023-04-11T12:12:35Z
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@Benevans @Computeforloot @atomic @augieray This is an important issue the US isn’t willing to address. Suicide rates are highest in wealthy countries and US is the highest. Fatal police shootings are higher in the US. US is an outlier in firearm deaths. Women and children experience the most violence and they aren’t the gun holders. When looking at the larger systemic issues, gun reform is really more of diversion than a solution.
(DIR) Post #AUXhQJ2GowXwuwY9Dc by augieray@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T12:15:48Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @Benevans @Computeforloot @atomic I agree except with your last sentence. Why wouldn't gun reform be PART of a solution rather than a diversion? Last I noticed, every nation had mental illness, violent movies and video games, and the same issues as the US. Isn't the difference the guns in the US? Or do you really think the US is so unique from other Western nations that Americans would kill each other in high numbers regardless of the assault weapons? (I don't.)
(DIR) Post #AUXhQJYAuK4EVtTcwq by atomic@universeodon.com
2023-04-11T12:28:03Z
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@augieray @GwladysPendlebury @Benevans @Computeforloot I do think the US has a couple key differences that do contribute to gun violence that is not entirely related to guns. This stems back to jim crow and the redlining practices of that time. They created the culture of the poor inner city black ghetto. The right love to point out that black people contribute to so much crime, but that is because of historical systemic racism. This creates a tension that may not exist in other countries such as australia or japan. Even if they had guns, they likely wouldn't have the gang violence issue we have.Also, the income inequality we have combined with a lack of proper social safety nets just further pushes people into poverty. Creating hopelessness. This combined with a lack of proper mental Healthcare increases gun violence and suicide.
(DIR) Post #AUXjC2bbJK1zoYOvHU by Benevans@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T12:36:50Z
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@atomic @augieray @GwladysPendlebury @Computeforloot Those countries also don't have anything like the US second amendment.Switzerland has almost as many guns per person as the US but zero gun violence.Australia and UK are countries that have successfully all but eliminated gun crime, what have they done differently to the US?
(DIR) Post #AUXjC3I8lA3hwUItaS by atomic@universeodon.com
2023-04-11T12:55:44Z
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@Benevans @augieray @GwladysPendlebury @Computeforloot those societies are almost monolithic in racial makeup. They also don't have the deep history of systemic institutional racism that we have. The racial tensions we have are just not present in Switzerland.Another thing is they don't have is a war on drugs in the same way we do. Because of historical redlining creating poor inner city black ghettos, you find a lot of drug use there. Especially because it is the primary fundng source for gang activity. This causes further institutional racism in the form of racist policing and disproportionate enforcement. Further increasing the racial tensions.It is basically a snowball effect.
(DIR) Post #AUY1SKq75CRKAt6mNk by augieray@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T12:55:47Z
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@atomic @GwladysPendlebury @Benevans @Computeforloot If you think the US is the only nation struggling with nationalism and racism, I think you need to read more. Nationalism is rising in Europe, and violence against immigrants and ethnic minorities is common. It's just less deadly because--you got it--fewer guns. (I'm an American living in Europe, so I know what I'm talking about.) https://www.statista.com/topics/3911/racism-and-prejudice-in-europe/#topicOverview
(DIR) Post #AUY1SLhHtUySpnzFGS by carlos@social.perceptiveconstructs.com
2023-04-11T13:36:22.491677Z
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@augieray @atomic @GwladysPendlebury @Benevans @Computeforloot Need to second that. My life and family are spread between Finland, Portugal and Spain. This is how things are going:FI - Xenophobic eurosceptic nationalists are the second largest party in a near tie between the largest 3 after recent elections. With plenty of youth support. They main join the government (again) now.PT - Populist extreme right nationalists have grown over the last few years to be the 3rd largest party and may join a government in the foreseeable future. Their leader is inviting Bolsonaro and Salvini for a far-right summit in Lisbon in MayES - Far right conservatives are the 3rd largest party and may join the center right in government already this year. They have a lot of support among young adults, particularly male.These societies are for sure more liberal and tolerant than they were 20 years ago, but there's a build up of support for the far right which has entered the mainstream with various flavours of nastiness.
(DIR) Post #AUY1SMppfDP4MazaDo by GwladysPendlebury@home.social
2023-04-11T13:48:59Z
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@carlos @augieray @Benevans @Computeforloot @atomic Exactly, and it isn't gun laws which are driving nationalism and fascism the US or Europe. There are other issues at play, in large part economic insecurity and inequality and the US which is arguably a large part a contributor to this problem is busy bickering over issues it won't resolve and hasn't resolved for 50 years as things get worse.
(DIR) Post #AUY1SNUFExjINvtrDE by carlos@social.perceptiveconstructs.com
2023-04-11T14:29:10.982146Z
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@GwladysPendlebury @augieray @Benevans @Computeforloot @atomic I think economic anxiety and growing inequality are key factors in all 3 countries.Also, some of the nastiness never really went away. License to show it openly has been reduced over the last decades. Now there's a push to make room for it again, and that effort is cross-national.
(DIR) Post #AUY1SOF2Qz9yj3nE9I by Benevans@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T14:38:55Z
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@carlos @GwladysPendlebury @augieray @Computeforloot @atomic If you step back, you realise the same few people are funding the far right in both the US and the UK.Probably also in many EU countries, although I haven't looked into that.Not sure what conclusion to draw, other than it is dangerous for democratic countries to allow some people to get rich enough that they can destabilise democracy.
(DIR) Post #AUY1SOylgxjv0tBkQa by atomic@universeodon.com
2023-04-11T16:17:38Z
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@Benevans @carlos @GwladysPendlebury @augieray @Computeforloot I agree. The consolidation of news media under a few large for profit corporations is absolutely a threat to democracy. Money ruins journalistic integrity. It is a massive conflict of interest.I'm not sure how we solve that problem however. Platforms like mastodon are a start. But I don't think it is enough to fix it
(DIR) Post #AUY1SPdtE4dJ4QQaWW by Benevans@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T16:18:49Z
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@atomic @carlos @GwladysPendlebury @augieray @Computeforloot Insisting that news programmes tell the truth would be a start.
(DIR) Post #AUY8NIbUfRchTIoe2q by atomic@universeodon.com
2023-04-11T16:33:45Z
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@Benevans @carlos @GwladysPendlebury @augieray @Computeforloot But who determines what the truth is? So much of what the news does nowadays is editorializing. It is all opinion based. Who determines who's opinions are the truth?I agree, we can probably outlaw outright lying for news organizations, but there are so many ways to spin something while still technically saying the truth.And then there are large implications for freedom of speech of we start regulating the 4th estate.
(DIR) Post #AUY8NJD4PjgHLqOecC by Benevans@mastodon.social
2023-04-11T17:38:52Z
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@atomic @carlos @GwladysPendlebury @augieray @Computeforloot Let's start at the beginning.Was Trump's inauguration crowd "the largest ever"?No it wasn't. It's not my opinion.The right see lying without consequence as a power move. That's part of the problems. The Russians have a single word for it. I'm lying and I know you know I'm lying, but I don't care.Trump's supporters see his lies as a sign of power. It's not that they don't care, they actively want it.