Post AUPfkSjPyHcfVzaVEG by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
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(DIR) Post #AUPdiaveK6PGS1I4pM by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:18:35Z
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IF there is an effort to push the #trans #LGBTQ agenda... for lack of a better word, within the education system... well, I find that as objectionable as those who who would ban it. Let people naturally discover themselves, and why can't you concentrate on teaching english, maths, biology, history etc, so that you won't churn out a bunch of confused dummies, with backs aching for the fascist lash, like in the good ol' days?
(DIR) Post #AUPeAFuu2TpfOL8CGW by grayface_ghost@tech.lgbt
2023-04-07T15:23:34Z
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@Tilopa So what you're basically saying then is, you're a transphobe?
(DIR) Post #AUPeSITHHRcoWhoR3w by chipchirp@ioc.exchange
2023-04-07T15:26:49Z
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@Tilopa the rhetoric from the right seems to equate words like agenda with just wanting to stay alive. Having someone not enforce tight gender roles is projected as the same as proselytizing or “spreading” being gay or trans somehow.Its absurd. If a trans person being in public can “cause” such an effect then it would be equally true that a faint suggestion that its ok to be cis would change their mind. But it doesnt. Social contagion is bullshit for the same reason conversion therapy doesnt work. You literally cant make people not be themselves with propaganda or even extended, violent progroms.
(DIR) Post #AUPee6SBmrhCjIvtzc by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:28:52Z
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@Tilopa Let me help you here: To the extent we have one, the Trans Agenda is--We exist, people should be in charge of their own bodies, their genders should be respected, no one should be killed for being different.You really think this is just as bad as banning kids from using the right bathrooms and inciting them to suicide?
(DIR) Post #AUPfAq4zgdKfVDh2fo by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:34:54Z
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@gnomic_heresy Let me help YOU. If I was a parent, and my boy, or girl were being told 'you cannot be happy unless you change your gender', or 'being straight is evil, so you have to be gay', then I will be FUCKING PISSED OFF.
(DIR) Post #AUPfExIylR2H4RCJNI by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:35:35Z
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@Tilopa I'm a parent. I'm also trans. I've also been a teacher. And straight up, nobody gets told that.
(DIR) Post #AUPfQIusko45HZL0YS by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:37:40Z
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@Tilopa I'm sorry. I'm really interested in your qigong stuff, but I don't come here for conversation with people who believe in hate.
(DIR) Post #AUPfRTknwiNZBSBUTw by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:37:56Z
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@gnomic_heresy That's not what I'm reading in the papers, and - true or not - it's propelling all the anti-trans rage. Besides, I think there ARE people who push agendas, some even push that pedophilia is A-ok. People shouldn't assume that everything is black and white in this murky world.
(DIR) Post #AUPfZvCXmUKEcwBWpU by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:39:26Z
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@gnomic_heresy Hey it's okay, dummy, I'm used to being misunderstood by cretins. Have a nice day. 👍
(DIR) Post #AUPfkSjPyHcfVzaVEG by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:41:19Z
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@Tilopa The papers--especially if you're reading the Daily Mail--are propelling the anti-trans rage on purpose to sell clicks. Even the NYT was doing this to the extent that there was a huge outcry from LGBTQIA folks and allies. Sure, there are the odd pedophiles, most btw cis het people since most people are cis and het. Readers of the news need to be responsible too. And it's exhausting, over and over, to be told that we're worthy of hate, that we should be silent or risk death, that children who are trans should kill themselves rather than be who they are.
(DIR) Post #AUPfwaPDGUHmn5uz8i by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:43:31Z
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@gnomic_heresy Schools shouldn't be pushing 'everyone should be gay, and being your natural gender from birth is evil, and you cannot be happy'. To pretend that isn't going on, and directly responsible for 90% of the bigot-backlash, is to not live in the real world.
(DIR) Post #AUPgKI6axMqEz2VsCu by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:47:46Z
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@Tilopa That isn't going on. I've been a teacher. I promise you I would raise a ruckus if that were going on.
(DIR) Post #AUPgcoiYRZKLLD6Oky by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:51:10Z
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@gnomic_heresy If it isn't going on, then the perception that it is, has been allowed to flourish, which is an abject failure of messenging, by the pro-trans faction. 😒
(DIR) Post #AUPgdV8CkangsvQTZI by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:51:16Z
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@Tilopa My kids are partially in public school and part homeschooled... because the messages they get about gender in public school are overwhelmingly "boys are boys and girls are girls, and we only talk about straight people". We know, actually, that there are lots of ways to be boys and to be girls, and I want my kids--both boys incidentally--not to get the message that they should be into guns and violence just because they're boys. But I would be equally unhappy if I thought they were being pushed to be gay or to be trans, even though I am trans and I know for me it happens to be a good thing. But there is nothing like the kind of pressure you're describing going on.
(DIR) Post #AUPghEEZW49LdZBK40 by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T15:51:56Z
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@Tilopa We're not the ones with the billion dollar marketing machines.
(DIR) Post #AUPgzodYuQdbkfjXxA by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T15:55:19Z
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@gnomic_heresy Okay, fair enough, but I'm pretty sure there are infrequent cases of the agenda being pushed hard, and also, the perception that it's being pushed is out there, and turning ordinary citizens into raging bigots.
(DIR) Post #AUPhtjsfmPkvDWT4LY by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T16:04:49Z
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@Tilopa Every trans person I have ever talked to wants people to be safe being trans or nonbinary or cis or however exactly they are. The perception is out there because there is a strain of thought that sees being trans at all as a fate worse than death. Unfortunately there is a group of people actively working to bring about the end of transgender people by any means they can. They think you can keep people from being trans by making sure they never hear about being trans. It doesn't work that way; you just get miserable, isolated people who are much more prone to depression and suicide. But suicide is an okay means to an end for the people who want there to be no more transgender people at any cost.Social isolation and abuse is also a risk factor for mass violence. Violence against children is never ever justified. But there's a commonality between the cis-het guys who are isolated and abused until they fall into violent ideologies, and trans people who are isolated and abused until they fall into violent ideologies, and the problem isn't that they're trans. It's the isolation and the abuse and the violence.
(DIR) Post #AUPjDZmP93cjdQYi1Y by gnomic_heresy@kolektiva.social
2023-04-07T16:20:12Z
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@Tilopa I want to thank you for listening and keeping an open mind.
(DIR) Post #AUPjexvfSxxILrx5Ci by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-04-07T16:25:10Z
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@gnomic_heresy I'm a bisexual cross-dresser, who feels a moral imperative to play Devil's advocate. I'm sympathetic to trans, LGBTQ rights, because 'everyone should have the freedom to pursue happiness'. That said, we saw what happened to feminism, that in their desire for equality, a certain extremist sub-segment would consider flattery as sexist, opening a door for them as 'male chauvanist oppression', and other absurdities. .. you get my point. Thanks for explaining your position, v helpful.