Post AU9WK7z1F4mApvnn4S by dictvm@chaos.social
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 (DIR) Post #AU9U5urz08b8Cfbfvc by tek@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T20:15:13Z
       
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       I just saw a video of Ben Shapiro being Ben Shapiro.You can't convince me that a small amount of violence is never the answer. I'm certain to my core that some people would be seriously improved by a little ass kicking. Not a maiming or any other kind of permanent injury, mind you, just a knuckle sandwich  in response to particularly egregious words.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9URkkLJt0fB4Rh0C by dictvm@chaos.social
       2023-03-30T20:19:11Z
       
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       @tek yeah, possibly, but keep in mind that you'll have to deal with a) them fighting back and b) being stronger/faster/more brutal than you.Not to forget that this line of thinking enables everyone, to apply violence to someone else and it'll only lead to a vicious cycle of rule of the strongest.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9UVnJPirboIEmENM by tek@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T20:19:55Z
       
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       I've heard much pearl clutching in the context of whether it's OK to assault someone who used racial slurs. "Just because someone called the other person ---, it's OK for the other person to punch them?"Maybe, maybe not, but the puncher would definitely want me on the jury if they got taken to court.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9UosVicRMxuydGIS by tek@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T20:23:06Z
       
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       @dictvm We're already there. Universally, the side saying shitty things is also the side willing to use violence to enforce their ability to. That leaves the "polite" side at a disadvantage in all ways.In the US, I hear the Democrats worry about things like "we should work within the established norms", then act shocked, shocked!, that the GOP ignores those norms to their own advantage.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9Vq0K1A7dkO7GBSS by 4bz@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T20:34:47Z
       
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       @tek @dictvm I don't remember the exact quote, or who said itIn order to be peaceful you must be capable of great violence. Otherwise you aren't peaceful, just helpless.We've been helpless too long, and they know it
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9WK7z1F4mApvnn4S by dictvm@chaos.social
       2023-03-30T20:38:19Z
       
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       @4bz @tek I agree. That's why I'm in support of the protests in France right now, for example.If your violence can prevent immediate harm for yourself, it's perfectly legit to use it. When people talk about punching people they disagree with, that's different.If that person is actively and directly encouraging others to harm you, violence towards that person is legit as well.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9WK8bevPgUllseIa by tek@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T20:40:03Z
       
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       @dictvm @4bz Agreed. I want would-be oppressors to be afraid that the people they want to oppress won't go along with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9XJ9TeIm4N8QEAWe by dictvm@chaos.social
       2023-03-30T20:40:11Z
       
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       @4bz @tek I've just seen too many Leftist (on Twitter mostly) calling for violence towards people whose opinions they disagree with (not to say that the Right isn't doing the same) and that just doesn't go with me.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9XJAV6UqpMJDuqQq by tek@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T20:51:10Z
       
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       @dictvm @4bz That's fair. I’m more specifically thinking about someone using vile language to repeatedly goad another person. If they use fighting words, and someone acts on them... Well, what did they expect?
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9g0XRpr1GnZ2Zvc0 by case@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T22:28:16Z
       
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       @tek I've been wondering same about the people who steal catalytic converters.
       
 (DIR) Post #AU9gY5fDf3sLEspzFY by tek@freeradical.zone
       2023-03-30T22:34:51Z
       
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       @case Don’t even get me started.