Post ATfmxKprsxzPrFfFnU by nf3xn@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #ATfjuH0tL9nfGwfXYe by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T11:51:14Z
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@AmosBurtonowsky21mReplying to @medeabenjaminjust a reminder for you
(DIR) Post #ATfkIGwlEudi12BFho by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T11:55:33Z
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@Tilopa Just a reminder...It is possible to criticize Ukraine and not support Russia.It is possible to criticize NATO and not support Russia.It is possible to criticize Russia and not support Ukraine.It is possible to criticize Wager group and not support Ukraine.#Ukraine #Russia #NATO
(DIR) Post #ATfkaVnImA5rHDSAU4 by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T11:58:52Z
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@blepharon Neutrality is the luxury of those who aren't fighting for their lives.
(DIR) Post #ATfljkRjliLdHQKobY by Runyan50@newsie.social
2023-03-16T12:02:05Z
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@blepharon @Tilopa Try supporting something - anything.
(DIR) Post #ATfljl41TMyNCAFOHQ by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:11:44Z
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@Runyan50 @blepharon And if you ever somehow, against all the odds, obtain a heart, brain, and soul, those who support #Ukraine will be waiting here, to welcome you into the fold. β₯
(DIR) Post #ATfm8OO0vNHS6MLPwO by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:16:11Z
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@Tilopa That may be true, but then who said I was neutral?
(DIR) Post #ATfmN4QdPQ5CY0ZMMi by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:18:51Z
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@blepharon Oh, it sounded like you were.
(DIR) Post #ATfmjFKpXXROkBQdiS by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:19:56Z
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@Runyan50 @Tilopa You are assuming I don't support anything? Or are you saying it is compulsory for every person around the world, to "take sides" in every war?What is important is to take sides in saving lives, and promoting peace and justice. That looks different in different situations. there are many ways of doing it, and they do not obligate "taking sides" on social media.#Ukraine #Russia #NATO
(DIR) Post #ATfmjFx7FC48evLDOK by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:22:51Z
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@blepharon @Runyan50 π
(DIR) Post #ATfmxKprsxzPrFfFnU by nf3xn@mastodon.social
2023-03-16T12:24:34Z
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@blepharon @Tilopa Just a reminder if you do not criticize Russia... then you support Russiathen you support Censorshipthen you support Oppressionthen you support Imperialismthen you support Torturethen you support Murderthen you support Extra-judicial defenestrationsthen you support War Crimesthen you support Baby-snatchingthen you support Weaponized pedo convictsthen you support Rape as a weapon of warthen you support Fascist Oligarchythen you support Genocidethen fuck you
(DIR) Post #ATfn2NpgAcokbIz1SS by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:26:19Z
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@Tilopa Some may have assumed I was, but I didn't say so. Putin is the aggressor, Russian and Ukranian people are the victimes, Ukraine is not a government I like v much, & NATO are pursuing their own hypocritical ends, w their usual campaign of encouraging almost permanent war. I'm also puzzled about the lack of coverage of other global conflicts which don't have the same geopolitical significance as Russia/NATO/Ukraine/Putin, but which involve enormous chronic and severe human suffering.
(DIR) Post #ATfnTzR4TGNF2kdXmq by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:31:17Z
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@blepharon #NATO is a purely defensive body. And #Ukraine has the right to self-defense. .. Of course, it's verboten to state the obvious, isn't it? That #Russia is the aggressor, and needs to be whipped, and send home crying to mummy.
(DIR) Post #ATfo6iBUXpXmpioVLU by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:28:15Z
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@nf3xn @Tilopa Thank you for those helpful comments. Was there anything else you wanted to add? I never realised what a terrible person I was. We clearly are looking at this issue from different contexts.
(DIR) Post #ATfo6ioqBX1GnlDvg8 by nf3xn@mastodon.social
2023-03-16T12:37:31Z
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@blepharon @Tilopa Really how is your support of a murderous fascist regime in a different context? It's not even tacit support. You are complicit in their crimes.
(DIR) Post #ATfoBrZz2dgBQ3j4JE by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:39:14Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn π
(DIR) Post #ATfoIgS8o9kGwEJHJQ by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:40:27Z
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@Tilopa I find it difficult to reconcile the idea of NATO as a "purely defensive" body, with it's constant expansion, both towards the borders of Russia and also in the Far East. Compared to when I was a child (living on UK military bases at home & overseas), NATO is unrecognisable.The post you replied to, includes a very clear statement from me, - quote: "Putin is the aggressor, Russian and Ukranian people are the victims."
(DIR) Post #ATfoewA759IS1wUMnw by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:44:29Z
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@blepharon "I'm not supporting Russia, I'm just saying Ukraine are Nazis, and NATO is invading Russia, and Russia stands for God, and freedom, and is engaged in a Holy War against Evil - Ukraine. ... but I'm impartial and neutral, honest π".
(DIR) Post #ATfp0KISXrrIxoakuO by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:48:20Z
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@Tilopa @nf3xn Maybe you missed earlier posts of mine both here and on Twitter pointing out the brutal aggression of Putin against the Chechen citizens of Grozny many years ago, or the dangers of ignoring him when he annexed Crimea back in 2014? It might be more instructive to look at who was "complicit" in that, or who turned a blind eye to it back then? Because geopolitically speaking, making abusive assumptions about me on social media, isn't going to save a single life in Ukraine.
(DIR) Post #ATfp3tWc1XUh5hug9Q by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2023-03-16T12:48:59.645540Z
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@nf3xn @blepharon @Tilopa I criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise RussiaI criticise Russiahave a nice day
(DIR) Post #ATfp9NEczT88gO77K4 by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:49:59Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn
(DIR) Post #ATfpFTHBRTm99mDUmm by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:51:04Z
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@Tilopa So sorry - when I mentioned quotes, I meant you to quote things I have said rather than things other people have said. And that picture is definitely not of me...
(DIR) Post #ATfpJSWeAtuLzGLpgG by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:51:48Z
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@Tilopa @nf3xn Yes I do suck sometimes. But how does that progress our discussion?
(DIR) Post #ATfprPlew1fdHOZ2pM by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T12:42:50Z
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@nf3xn @Tilopa I'm unclear as to where I have supported a "murderous fascist regime". Perhaps you could produce your evidence - preferably by quoting things I have said? Also - if you could explain to me why I am "complicit in their crimes"? Again - with direct quotes rather than inferences or assumptions - you know very little about me and you are making very bold claims.
(DIR) Post #ATfprQKOqrSZ18omye by nf3xn@mastodon.social
2023-03-16T12:51:54Z
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@blepharon @Tilopa What part of the reminder did you not understand? Anyone who was even vaguely interested in human rights would have a LOT MORE TO SAY ABOUT FASCISTS COMMITTING GENOCIDE than almost any other thing. You are more obsessed with the West bogey than confronting the evil right in front of you. Your ideology is a comfort blanket with zero substance. You are a hypocrite and completely AMORAL.
(DIR) Post #ATfpwF0YMoFFMApf3Q by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:58:49Z
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@nf3xn @blepharon But don't forget, as the Russian army bombs, rapes, and murders, in an illegal war of aggression, that it's all NATO's fault. π
(DIR) Post #ATfq18KYcXHe5xWPnk by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T12:59:43Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn In the question of 'who do I support, Russia, or Ukraine?', I think I've already decisively answered it ... You haven't though. π€
(DIR) Post #ATfqBes6ULWZuoEPbs by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T13:01:35Z
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@Tilopa @nf3xn "that it's all NATO's fault" - which I never said.
(DIR) Post #ATfqKvANH5CT3hC6mO by otso@pleroma.karjalazet.se
2023-03-16T13:03:15.903881Z
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@nf3xn @Tilopa @blepharon https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Basic_Principles_of_War_Propaganda
(DIR) Post #ATfqUtLksnVaJxGvJo by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T13:05:05Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn Yes you did, we all saw you say it. Why don't you go to Moscow, and kiss Putin's bum? π‘
(DIR) Post #ATfqYmpX45WdG63bgu by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T13:05:46Z
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@Tilopa @nf3xn A reminder of the post from me that started this exchange:https://mas.to/@blepharon/110032829358214290I'm not obliged to "support" Russia or Ukraine. I'm just a simple UK citizen who contributes his taxes to NATO and resists as much tribal politics as possible.
(DIR) Post #ATfr30YIbxEqVKPJ0S by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T13:11:15Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn If you can't condemn Russia... well, I think this conversation is over, Rabsky. π
(DIR) Post #ATfr4PLttI0xi4H8G8 by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T13:11:29Z
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@Tilopa @nf3xn I'd rather not thanks. But I have to ask where did I say "that it's all NATO's fault"?I believe NATO has questions to answer, it is expansionist and has been for a long time. I've clearly labelled Putin as the aggressor - as he always HAS been. But you won't find the quote from me that said "it's all NATO's fault". I've been critical of Putin for his whole time in office. But that doesn't mean I can't see the bad things about my country and my country's allies.
(DIR) Post #ATfrQAmoj866uCFB0C by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T13:15:25Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn Now is not the time to endlessly elaborate on Obama's tan-suit, or Hillary's emails, or pick at gnats. Now is the time to send military aid to Ukraine, starve Russia with sanctions, and WIN THIS WAR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MeJWSdrcRZk #music
(DIR) Post #ATfrWVJJKd0cIUSf4a by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T13:16:34Z
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@Tilopa @nf3xn Why did you call me RabsSKY?As far as I am aware, it is a "Slavic" name suffix, rather than a specifically Russian one.Thanks for the exchange.
(DIR) Post #ATfrY8pjs5xdAJPU8m by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T13:16:53Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn Now is not the time to endlessly elaborate on Obama's tan-suit, or Hillary's emails, or pick at gnats. Now is the time to send military aid to #Ukraine, starve #Russia with sanctions, and WIN THIS WAR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXh5JprKqiU
(DIR) Post #ATfraEIEXmP4g2jYxs by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T13:17:15Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn Now is not the time to endlessly elaborate on Obama's tan-suit, or Hillary's emails, and pick at gnats. Now is the time to send military aid to #Ukraine, starve #Russia with sanctions, and WIN THIS WAR. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wXh5JprKqiU
(DIR) Post #ATfrqVhdaBFpJ1Nb96 by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T13:20:11Z
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@blepharon @nf3xn You're welcome, hun x
(DIR) Post #ATfsNQ0zkas3Do7rXc by EeeeWooo@mastodon.social
2023-03-16T13:18:55Z
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@blepharon as the US looney right give Putin hope that if he holds out for two years we will let him trounce in Ukraine, this is not the time to say βbut Ukraine.. β or βbut NATOβ¦β because then you add your voice to the treasonous Russia-supporting message. Itβs not okay. Youβre not okay. @Tilopa @nf3xn
(DIR) Post #ATfwpvLdFURuK8cuFk by blepharon@mas.to
2023-03-16T14:11:52Z
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@EeeeWooo @Tilopa @nf3xn I'm not sure how I as a non-Ukranian can be guilty of treason in a Russia-Ukraine war. Even if I WAS "supporting Russia" (which I'm not).NATO isn't even officially a party to this war so I haven't betrayed them either."Treason" appears to have been redefined as "not agreeing with Eeeee Woooo"?This exchange reminds me of Twitter somehow. I expected better of Mastodon. Best wishes.
(DIR) Post #ATfwpvu1BdxG2miMqm by Tilopa@convo.casa
2023-03-16T14:16:06Z
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@blepharon @EeeeWooo @nf3xn Enjoy those 30 pieces of silver.. π