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(DIR) Post #ATB13sekqgSTbJQWQq by elan@publicsquare.global
2023-03-01T16:07:22Z
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@kairyssdal 1st amendment? If it was so harmless, how does Dominion have standing for that suit? The Big Lie is a right wing conspiracy to undermine democracy.
(DIR) Post #ATB1S3mj7mVz47gYTI by PattiA@mstdn.social
2023-03-01T16:11:46Z
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@kairyssdal No. we’re up against fascism. The press has failed democracy for the most part….at least we’ve all learned to question ALL of you at this point.
(DIR) Post #ATB1cXzHgemJdIYlHs by mishi@kolektiva.social
2023-03-01T16:13:39Z
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@kairyssdal The first amendment allows people to criticize their government. It does not give free reign to propagandists to spread lies and dissent. There is a difference.
(DIR) Post #ATB1ckAMPIlhP7pmDY by peatbog@med-mastodon.com
2023-03-01T16:13:42Z
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@kairyssdal I know the government shouldn't be dictating what journalists can and cannot say. But Murdoch isn't going to listen to me because I'm not a billionaire. Somebody needs to slap some sense into that man.
(DIR) Post #ATB1xz99u9LTwmOugq by TransitionState@mstdn.social
2023-03-01T16:17:32Z
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@kairyssdal if they were threatening him with some kind of legal sanction I would agree wholeheartedly but this letter could have come from two random listeners too. There might be an implied threat, maybe? But it isn't really clear beyond I suppose a threat to use their pulpits to denounce the guy, which, sure.
(DIR) Post #ATB1zTvYwqjFhXkruS by StretchCT@mstdn.social
2023-03-01T16:17:49Z
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@kairyssdal Actual First Amendment Issue.Though I wonder if a media company that aids and abets crimes through it's publications or broadcasts can ever be held accountable if they have First Amendment protections.
(DIR) Post #ATB2XRBde1LH2ySviK by tob@hachyderm.io
2023-03-01T16:23:55Z
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@kairyssdal The 1st Amendment is why Fox and Murdoch will laugh the letter off.Of course, the point of this letter isn't to get Fox News to change their stripes.It's to get more people talking about the fact that Fox News' headliners lied repeatedly to their audience and continue lying to them to this day as a matter of course.
(DIR) Post #ATB3HnuhTl4GqzeUxk by Crell@phpc.social
2023-03-01T16:32:10Z
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@kairyssdal The first amendment does not protect against sedition.Fox engaged in sedition, and supported those who engaged in sedition on 6 Jan.Yes, we really are at that point. The country is in that bad of a shape.
(DIR) Post #ATB45mrJfqjU3uu3RA by rotoole@mastodon.social
2023-03-01T16:41:20Z
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@kairyssdal I would rather see this sort of thing come from the FCC. And the FCC should have more power to penalize "news" orgs for violations with heavier consequences.
(DIR) Post #ATB4pcvquj1mayso4m by qapla@federated.press
2023-03-01T16:49:37Z
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@kairyssdal there should be higher standards for any purported journalists with a large audience. Literally selling out the country shouldn’t have free speech protections
(DIR) Post #ATB55QtFSBF9shCZ4i by richard_merren@mastodon.social
2023-03-01T16:52:30Z
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@kairyssdal This "demand" talk is icky, but Fox doesn't get a pass on fomenting insurrection any more than anyone else who has free speech rights. They were yelling "fire" in a crowded theater and it is clear that they knew there was not a fire. They were actively working to overthrow an election. It is entirely appropriate for our elected officials to express an opinion on that, and it may even be wrong for them not to say something.
(DIR) Post #ATB77gBzjLuBpPAYSG by cogspace@dice.camp
2023-03-01T17:15:18Z
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@kairyssdal garbage take
(DIR) Post #ATB7LAffisNg7XU3mK by mikeylikestech@infosec.exchange
2023-03-01T17:17:44Z
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@kairyssdal How much free political air time did the Republican Party gain, without Fox News reporting itself as a super pac?Isn’t there supposed to be rules?Trump gained millions of dollars in tv time, just to go on political rants. Trump team went out on fox like it was paid programming.
(DIR) Post #ATB8eg23RngmqDomhM by iainabernathy@mastodon.social
2023-03-01T17:32:28Z
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@kairyssdal the first amendment famously doesn’t protect shouts of “fire” in a crowded theater. This speech has led directly to deaths. It’s not protected speech.
(DIR) Post #ATBCWMrxD6kuuOO3g8 by domenick@c.im
2023-03-01T18:15:44Z
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@kairyssdal they are asking. They aren't stopping them from publishing what they want. This letter is obviously not a first amendment issue and I'm surprised you think it is.
(DIR) Post #ATBFSdbNMBLpVYXtJI by frmarty@urbanists.social
2023-03-01T18:48:44Z
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@kairyssdal The suit is about defamation. Fox can say what it likes - but risks the consequences of untruthful information. The only thing our legislators should do, and I'm not sure it would help in the cable/streaming era, is bring legislation to re-establish the fairness doctrine.
(DIR) Post #ATBYg9bfZcDxf8qF3A by AndrewS@zirk.us
2023-03-01T22:24:04Z
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@kairyssdal Demanding a news organization to be truthful for the sake of democracy is not a big ask. If it were accompanied by a threat (implied or actual) it would be a First Amendment issue.
(DIR) Post #ATBb9qCeTnB44zQJVo by Cassandra@artisan.chat
2023-03-01T22:51:50Z
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@kairyssdal The first amendment was not created to support people knowingly flooding public discussion with lies. It was intended to build diversity of public discussion. Knowingly flooding public discussion with lies is damaging to public discussion.
(DIR) Post #ATBnnVxON96uJvyCQq by north_easton@mastodon.social
2023-03-02T01:13:29Z
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@kairyssdal Aw, for… man, he really shouldn't be doing that.
(DIR) Post #ATDZttHQ4kGuRoSchU by industrialsmoothing@ioc.exchange
2023-03-02T21:47:11Z
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@kairyssdal schumer has first amendment rights too. There is no govt action being taken here so this is not illegal. If on the other hand you redistrict a theme park because you didnt like what they said then that is actual govt action punishing free speech.