Post ASr8nK9CIXLMPa5Fqq by BarrenPlanet@c.im
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 (DIR) Post #ASqlfiokORGJf7vNQG by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T21:37:24Z
       
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       Nope, I don't buy "Facebook will always be here because everyone uses Facebook."AIM was once used by "everyone" too. Now it's used by no one.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqlfkuUc32w9Wczei by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T21:39:34Z
       
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       And not everyone uses Facebook. Gen Z avoids Facebook like the plague. Even if they have an account on Facebook, they're not actively using it. Facebook hasn't been driving Internet culture for years now.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqlflTEWsprtGsjo0 by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
       2023-02-19T21:40:41Z
       
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       @atomicpoet Where do you think everyone has gone?Instagram...
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqlzHZ5QYTivovUv2 by james@mstdn.starnix.network
       2023-02-19T21:43:31Z
       
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       @Linux_in_a_Bit @atomicpoet But Instagram is also owned by Facebook! So technically people didn't actually leave Facebook...And I didn't sign up for either one of them!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqm100NgXIL3AVnBA by Linux_in_a_Bit@linuxrocks.online
       2023-02-19T21:44:05Z
       
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       @james @atomicpoet That's what I was saying ;)
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqpNuhRsNb37QH4Uq by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T21:44:19Z
       
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       Every technology has four waves of acceptance:1. Enthusiasts 2. Early adopters3. Stragglers4. ObsoletersThe Fediverse is at the 1st wave. Facebook is at the 3rd. The 4th wave usually only happens when everyone else abandons the service.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqpNvNHMr3bD9qThI by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T21:48:08Z
       
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       At some point, Facebook will be obsolete. Their userbase is skewing older and older. Meta themselves know this, which is why they're spending obscene amounts of money developing the metaverse.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqpNvwNGN86y0GVOq by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T21:58:31Z
       
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       It's important for the Fediverse to replace Twitter. It's even more important for the Fediverse to replace all Meta-owned social media services. We need to effectively turn Meta into AOL.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqpNxYhFNNVz9Ccls by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T22:00:38Z
       
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       I get lots of people saying to me, "Well, what about my grandma who depends on Meta for everything?"Give your grandma some credit. She learned how to use Facebook. And your grandma will go wherever she feels her family is going.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqsy00fuVH5sKALa4 by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T22:39:44Z
       
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       Some people believe that the Fediverse is at the stage of early adoption. I disagree. It's still very much an enthusiast system. And most adoption that's happening is myopic in nature. The Fediverse will only gain early adoption when a broader array of services are actually used.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqsy0VA59f3OsQh6G by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T22:47:04Z
       
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       Case in point: Fediverse groups.They exist.Yet, how many people use group functionality on the Fediverse despite most of you actively wanting -- and requesting -- this feature?You can actually use groups through your Mastodon account right now.Here's an example: @fediversenews The reason most people don't use this feature right now is because everyone is focused on replacing Twitter, and Twitter never had a groups function.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqsy18rhXQ7O10OzA by atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T22:51:16Z
       
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       One reason people don't migrate from Facebook to the Fediverse is that they cite a lack of a group function.Yet, this function actually exists and has existed for a long, long time on the Fediverse.Fediverse groups have been around since at least 2019.The following services use this function:1. Friendica2. Misskey/Calckey3. Lemmy4. GuppeThere's probably more, in fact.More Facebook users need to know about this!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASqyDw3CtiXY04li6K by tn5421@fedi.absturztau.be
       2023-02-20T00:01:20.171818Z
       
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       @atomicpoet They'll just move on to "next excuse" instead.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASr165pIy2l9rhDa08 by cwjohan@mastodon.social
       2023-02-19T22:58:01Z
       
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       @atomicpoet @fediversenews Twitter has groups in the form of private conversations where only invitees can participate.  Works well.  Use it every day.  However, I don’t know how to create a group or join a group in Mastodon.  Hasn’t been explained in a way easily accessible to new users, to my knowledge.  Seems like a “secret feature”.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASr166TMZ6nnrvxZRI by BarrenPlanet@c.im
       2023-02-20T00:33:35Z
       
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       @cwjohan @atomicpoet @fediversenews Twitter does have quasi-private groups, and they work pretty much the same as messaging apps such as Signal, Telegram, Discord etc.You create the group in DMs, name it "Everything that's shit about Twitter" (or whatever) and start adding moots. And it works pretty well. I think the largest group I was in only contained around 30 people - unlike on Telegram where you can end up in a group of thousands - but they did what they were designed to do.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASr8FvgwCemT0UwSPo by danjones000@microwords.goodevilgenius.org
       2023-02-20T01:53:02Z
       
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       "Twitter does have quasi-private groups, and they work pretty much the same as messaging apps such as Signal, Telegram, Discord etc."Not quite like those. Those ones have end-to-end encryption. So only the group participants can read the messages.Twitter has no such encryption, so any Twitter developer (or CEO, for that matter) with access to the database can read those messages.This is also true for Mastodon/Fediverse, by the way. No E2E encryption, so server admins (from any of the people in the group) can read the messages.Private messages isn't really a design goal of the Fediverse. There are better options for that, like Matrix.@BarrenPlanet@c.im @cwjohan@mastodon.social @atomicpoet@mastodon.social
       
 (DIR) Post #ASr8nK9CIXLMPa5Fqq by BarrenPlanet@c.im
       2023-02-20T01:59:50Z
       
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       @danjones000 @cwjohan @atomicpoet I meant "same" from an end user perspective.But yeah you're right. If you want privacy, use Signal. WhatsApp has side doors for bypassing encryption based on privileges you grant it from your endpoint (your phone).