Post ASiweaRzYpGPecGLy4 by Jdreben@mastodon.world
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(DIR) Post #ASip2deKWFl6tNzXFo by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T01:16:53Z
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Lack of assistance from @Gargron has made the decision easy for us to shutdown mastodon.au in 7 days. Unfortunately when you can’t get any response after a week it’s clear there is no future for individual instances to operate. The requests was by email and direct messages on mastodon, but no reply. Apologies to everyone who uses mastodon.au.
(DIR) Post #ASip2e5cslaqG2lKng by zog@jauntygoat.net
2023-02-16T01:40:46Z
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@mb @Gargron what about the 3 month covenant?
(DIR) Post #ASipSbSzG3JreR4D68 by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T01:45:26Z
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@zog I thought about that too and the disadvantage 7 days will have for users, but why support something that you can't get answers to a simple request. Hopefully it sends a message they need to better look after instances who ask for assistance.
(DIR) Post #ASipzSNQ4gDR1381j6 by zog@jauntygoat.net
2023-02-16T01:51:25Z
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@mb ok, understood
(DIR) Post #ASitEuhpKTsZ5Ejga8 by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T02:27:51Z
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@mb I'm sorry to be rude, but why would you expect personal assistance from Gargron in running your instance? This is free and open source software.It seems unreasonable to punish your users for a perceived breach in a non existent service agreement.
(DIR) Post #ASitMGXeXggipjU024 by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T02:29:10Z
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@Jdreben It wasn't from him personally, it was from whoever is able to reply to emails, he was just tagged in the post. that's all :)
(DIR) Post #ASithRMjUj7AU5TJnk by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T02:33:01Z
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@mb Regardless are you paying their team to help you run your instance? Why do you expect prompt responses?
(DIR) Post #ASiu4b9xFO8hWIXOFc by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T02:37:06Z
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@Jdreben I'd be happy to pay them to get a response, any after a week.
(DIR) Post #ASiuElt6DOaNgkVL5E by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T02:39:02Z
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@mb You should try hiring someone else. I'm sure they're very busy right now developing the core features.
(DIR) Post #ASiuSQ0oLRQttecRYe by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2023-02-16T02:39:54Z
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@mb @Jdreben did you try contacting them via their issue tracker? I've had very good responsiveness from the Mastodon dev team in the past, usually within an hour or two.
(DIR) Post #ASiv97Z2oEcL8Lzeue by mookie@orangebunny.net
2023-02-16T02:47:05Z
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@mb @Jdreben I am genuinely curious to why do you feel that @Gargron or any of the #Mastodon devs would be obligated to help you? If you’re running a Linux server, you wouldn’t ping Linus Torvalds directly for help with your install would you and expect him or the Linux kernel team to drop what they’re doing to help you?
(DIR) Post #ASiv985IsIQCkP5QC8 by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T02:49:11Z
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@mookie @mb 100% this.
(DIR) Post #ASiwL9TPdXPUU4eyO0 by aenesidemusoz@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T01:22:59Z
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@mb @Gargron WTAF?! I finally got comfortable. Shit.
(DIR) Post #ASiwLAAf2k0MeCtVnU by aenesidemusoz@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T02:55:42Z
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@mb @Gargron To be clear, this pisses me off.Your reasons are petty and, I suspect, an excuse to stop doing something you don't want to do any more.Nonetheless, it's your decision to make, so I hope you have more luck with your next venture. ✌️
(DIR) Post #ASiwU2z18X5MxegUe8 by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T03:04:12Z
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@aenesidemusoz I feel for you so hard :'(. I'm very grateful for the open and honest management here at mastodon.world.If your admin needs financial assistance, they should ask for it. If they need technical assistance, they should pay for it...
(DIR) Post #ASiweZsXgcuJsfg2iG by quokka1@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T01:24:50Z
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My instance mastodon.au is shutting down ☹️Need some suggestions on new instance to head to please fellow tooters.Or maybe I do spin up that domain name I bought.#migration #suggestions
(DIR) Post #ASiweaRzYpGPecGLy4 by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T03:06:05Z
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@quokka1 Calckey.social is really cool. It's actually Misskey not Mastodon but it is really fun and still fediverse.C.im, also has a really long character limit which I think some people like!Mastodon.world is mine and @ruud has been super responsive and awesome so far.
(DIR) Post #ASiwns4rOT0evfs0si by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T01:39:51Z
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@mike The problem started a few months ago with server images not appearing on joinmastodon.org, after a few replies back and forth it just stopped, that was the first issue. The second happened last week when the server order changed on the website, I asked for mastodon.au to be moved into the general category (8th Feb) and got no response. Second issue was getting syd.social listed again no response (10 feb). I understand they'd get heaps of emails, but a week and no response for the primary website where people go to find servers is unacceptable. (cc @aussocialadmin as you asked to know more)
(DIR) Post #ASiwnsXDh1h8Ld8f5M by aurynn@cloudisland.nz
2023-02-16T01:54:14Z
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@mb @mike @aussocialadmin Wow. You're going to drop thousands of people's social network access in 7 days for something as petty as not being on someone else's website?
(DIR) Post #ASiwnt0dvdELosu9wm by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T01:55:01Z
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@aurynn @mike @aussocialadmin We're listed there already, so being listed wasn't the problem.
(DIR) Post #ASiwntRaJSmVARVfwO by aurynn@cloudisland.nz
2023-02-16T01:56:09Z
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@mb @mike @aussocialadmin I cannot believe how petty you're being over this. 7 days. That's utterly ridiculous.
(DIR) Post #ASiwo1XCEU1WGACGnY by nus@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T03:05:17Z
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@mb @zog I don't particularly like your decision, but...If you're going to end up sunsetting your instance or no longer honoring the Covenant, it is absolutely crucial you can talk to the administrator of the site where it's posted.At that point the due diligence would stop being yours and would start being theirs. Unconditionally. Bad decision on your part or not, that site needs to be maintained too.
(DIR) Post #ASiwo297xSMg9nwYvA by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T03:06:56Z
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@nus @zog We've taken that into consideration and adhere to the 3 months. The message got across and hope it helps other admins going forward.
(DIR) Post #ASiwrsSVuvHtGqqPBI by tw@cantos.social
2023-02-16T01:56:51Z
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@aurynn @mb @mike @aussocialadmin not to mention that to get listed in the first place you committed to the Mastodon Covenant, including 3 months' shutdown notice.
(DIR) Post #ASiwru7JkhWMPgwVQ8 by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T03:08:29Z
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@tw originally this admin wasn't even going to give 3 months? Wow.
(DIR) Post #ASiwsXhUa8d9BBARii by elan@publicsquare.global
2023-02-16T02:00:27Z
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@tw @aurynn @mb @mike @aussocialadmin yeah this is so strange.You didn't get a reply so you're throwing a tantrum?You committed to 3 months, keep your word. We need to be better than that other social network.#FediAdmin #MastoAdmin #Mastodon #Fediverse
(DIR) Post #ASix0tgKjvURfabppY by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T03:10:08Z
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@elanAt least I'm finding some smart people in this thread. Well said.
(DIR) Post #ASix2iEaGxR4kFUllY by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T02:06:06Z
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@elan @tw @aurynn @mike @aussocialadmin Support goes both ways as they're the primary location for people joining it's to send a message that you can't just ignore instance admins. Hopefully it helps others going forward and if they need help they get it.
(DIR) Post #ASix2izNSyrl5NO8hc by elan@publicsquare.global
2023-02-16T02:07:23Z
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@mb @tw @aurynn @mike @aussocialadmin so you're gonna punish people who trusted you? Trusted that you'd keep to the covenant?
(DIR) Post #ASix2jgcsBSdFVcg76 by aussocialadmin@aus.social
2023-02-16T02:11:39Z
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@elan @mb @tw @aurynn @mike Michael, you've fucked around, and you're about to find out... If there is anything we can do to support the people on your instance.. consider your options(I'm happy to take the instance over and sunset it over 3 months)
(DIR) Post #ASixB3K7kM3kT93zg8 by Gustodon@mas.to
2023-02-16T03:11:58Z
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@Jdreben Thanks for this thread; it was incredibly informative.
(DIR) Post #ASj03Linl7tP4jcmp6 by elias@foxhold.net
2023-02-16T02:17:13Z
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@mb @elan @tw @aurynn @mike @aussocialadmin this is a Musk level temper tantrum. The whole point of decentralization is that nobody needs to care about what a central decision authority does, and you're gonna throw all your users under the bus because you... don't like what a central decision authority does (that you chose to give power to, and frankly doesn't even matter that much, especially to your users)?
(DIR) Post #ASj03MrhVWbaccnPKi by tw@cantos.social
2023-02-16T02:18:42Z
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@elias @mb @elan @aurynn @mike @aussocialadmin I think we should all stop wasting our breath here and focus on providing support for Mike's former users.His temperament is pretty clear from this situation and convincing him to change his mind is just setting up a time bomb.union.place stands ready for anyone with any interest in the international labor movement.
(DIR) Post #ASj059TmFMQHgZSMxE by J12t@social.coop
2023-02-16T02:26:04Z
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@elan @tw @aurynn @mb @mike @aussocialadmin How can we create a #fediverse where somebody throwing a tantrum can't just simply throw lots of users under the bus?
(DIR) Post #ASj0CABk0bStubMbjc by MacropodCare@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T03:45:45Z
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@Jdreben @aenesidemusoz I wonder how many of us have been donating?
(DIR) Post #ASj0Fkav6lVxgyqqno by Gargron@mastodon.social
2023-02-16T02:22:44Z
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@mb This is very unprofessional. I just checked the request. To move your server from Regional to General, even though in your original submission you said the server was intended for Australians only... To break the trust of the users who have chosen your service over this.
(DIR) Post #ASj0Q8w7Sb7q5DisFs by mb@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T02:28:18Z
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@Gargron Prior to the order change there wasn't an issue, but when you rely on that list and you're no longer visible by default it's difficult. As per what we agreed to to be listed there, I'll maintain 3 months prior to turning off the light. Hopefully going forward there is more assistance for admins.
(DIR) Post #ASj0Q9N3qQfzQmKOFU by pynkbites@queer.af
2023-02-16T02:53:46Z
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@mb @Gargron I'm with Gargron on this one. This was tremendously unprofessional. You should be apologizing to your users right now, not doubling down on your mistake.
(DIR) Post #ASj0Q9sbx7uh0d5aQS by pynkbites@queer.af
2023-02-16T02:57:07Z
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@mb @Gargron Like, buddy, if admin duties are too much for you then you should have sought a successor to take over, not upended the whole chess board in a tantrum. Yeesh.
(DIR) Post #ASj0RMflsHCqyWetKC by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T03:48:32Z
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@pynkbites lmao this is the visual I needed. A Mastodon chess board full of users.
(DIR) Post #ASj25xl1Vu0DWr2P8i by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T04:07:04Z
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@MacropodCare I'm curious too. For most servers like mine, the donations are visible where you donate. Unless of course people choose to make them private.
(DIR) Post #ASj2L1KkV1x4xpvbrE by aenesidemusoz@mastodon.au
2023-02-16T04:09:47Z
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@Jdreben this was about trying to get the instance "up" in the listings on the on-boarding site. Nothing technical, nothing to do with funding.
(DIR) Post #ASj3Y6QixjeQUNWbwm by Jdreben@mastodon.world
2023-02-16T04:23:23Z
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@aenesidemusoz Yeah wow. So egregious.
(DIR) Post #ASjFbeEWwD4FeAHJei by lamp@mastodong.lol
2023-02-16T06:38:27Z
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@J12t @elan @tw @aurynn @mb @mike @aussocialadmin by having everyone host themselves. but this has its downsides. So letting people migrate until they find the right administration for them is the best we got i guess
(DIR) Post #ASjFw8Maco7ssvogXQ by nus@mstdn.social
2023-02-16T03:07:27Z
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@mookie> If you’re running a Linux server, you wouldn’t ping Linus Torvalds directly for help with your install Yes, I hold him personally accountable
(DIR) Post #ASjFw8tYeEUuXBF0vQ by lamp@mastodong.lol
2023-02-16T06:42:09Z
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@nus @mookie wut