Post ASY1cEgPkcceT6FyaG by bullivant@mastodon.ie
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(DIR) Post #ASY0OgRvcTssZlSGhc by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-10T20:25:43Z
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Anybody want to bring this guy up to date? I'm tired of repeating myself about the hostility of the Mastodon onboarding process, and how many people here are quite explicit about using it to keep "the wrong kind of people" out. If Mastodon had a decent search facility I could point at my previous posts, but the Mastodon Priesthood objects to broad search as well. Very tiresome.
(DIR) Post #ASY0kUiJvuKaY7WRxQ by robstahlnecker@mastodon.social
2023-02-10T20:29:46Z
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@lauren I ran into a lot of gatekeeping when I joined back in November.
(DIR) Post #ASY0xmZcqGyxhln8nw by dpnash@mastodon.online
2023-02-10T20:32:15Z
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@lauren One thing I've seen lately -- groups with a historically large established Mastodon presence often feel welcomed, others ... not so much:Many new FOSS/InfoTech/privacy techies: Yay, awesome!Many new LGBTQ+ people: Cool, this is great!Many new neurodivergent folks: Nice, cool place!Many new Black visitors: A lot of places here are waaaay racist and not at all inviting.I'm sure there are other examples, but this one has really stood out over the last couple of months.
(DIR) Post #ASY1OJLfbmFWsquiw4 by grinnpidgeon@techhub.social
2023-02-10T20:36:54Z
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@lauren I was followed by a couple of odd guys trying to engage with weird subjects when I first joined. My weirdo antennae went up right away and I blocked them. I saw it as trying to test me or scare me, but haven’t seen it lately.
(DIR) Post #ASY1cEgPkcceT6FyaG by bullivant@mastodon.ie
2023-02-10T20:38:52Z
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@lauren So that's a 'no' then, you can't show any instances of explicit hostility to new arrivals. Just general hand waving allegations.And what's with the screenshot of my post and refusal to reply directly? Very, very weird behaviour.
(DIR) Post #ASY1edITCz0DNzCSRs by kkeller@curling.social
2023-02-10T20:38:59Z
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@lauren I have not seen very much explicit hostility recently. I am guessing the onboarding process is still not easy.
(DIR) Post #ASY1gJAb0kUzXgJdc8 by gotofritz@fosstodon.org
2023-02-10T20:39:20Z
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@lauren I didn't have any issues, it took a while to get a feel for it but was never "not welcoming", it felt alright to me> how many people here are quite explicit about using it to keep "the wrong kind of people" outi came across a few pontificating gatekeepers, but I just ignored them
(DIR) Post #ASY9hMrxfn7v4DVUlE by jeridansky@sfba.social
2023-02-10T22:10:02Z
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@lauren If you want to be able to search your old posts, you can add yourself to this opt-in index: https://www.tootfinder.ch/
(DIR) Post #ASY9oJBflGONfs2JBQ by lauren@mastodon.laurenweinstein.org
2023-02-10T22:11:22Z
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@jeridansky I am uninterested in adding myself into a search system that bypasses the vast majority of sites.
(DIR) Post #ASbmJWi9uPWqKNQMV6 by hallam@infosec.exchange
2023-02-12T16:06:43Z
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@lauren Different people have different views but a large number want two, mutually inconsistent things.First, they want to replace Twitter and become a forum with global reach.Second they don't want Mastodon to change.It isn't unusual for people to make inconsistent demands and in this case, it might actually be possible to square this circle.Mastodon hasn't been big enough for interest groups to be viable until recently. What if they were done a bit differently from the way Facebook does them so Mastodon becomes one feed among many?What if there were curation services that people could opt into which provide 'posts I am likely to want to view' based on positive and negative feedback from the individual user. (Downvoting content is absolutely necessary).And maybe you subscribe to several of them and your client continuously rates their performance and only uses the ones that are working. I think these approaches would provide the social scaling required for Mastodon to expand by another order of magnitude without becoming another Facebook with a smirking billionaire in a hoodie whose biggest idea is a VR simulation of his office making all the decisions for everyone.Twitter and Facebook hate downvotes because it hurts their wallets. Making the worst actors most visible is what drives engagement and profits. It also makes Facebook the online version of the Jerry Springer show.Put downvotes into the equation and I am not just going to respond to Klu Klux Kruella's hate posts, I am going to downvote them. And so the hatemongers gradually fade from public view because only the fascists want to hear them.