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 (DIR) Post #ASInbQ1HnqaEbqKvho by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-01-30T07:59:48Z
       
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       Early morning departure for another #flyingless trip - and we are not alone on this TER regional train.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbQl13pAAtfjRz6 by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-01-30T08:44:02Z
       
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       second #flyingless TER this morning...
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbRLAtO5QhoeKLQ by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-01-30T16:15:55Z
       
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       Third train, #flyingless also some #multimodality
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbRq12ikyFT4xPs by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-01-31T00:04:19Z
       
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       Fourth and last #flyingless train of the day, continuing early tomorrow!
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbSGbRs1XZvWBrE by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-01-31T06:15:58Z
       
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       Now on the last leg of the trip, short night in Milano, still happily #flyingless
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbSodPLFJHTRMu0 by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T04:47:26Z
       
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       Time to start traveling home, #flyingless
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbTORGDsz4WBxi4 by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T04:54:45Z
       
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       They call it a "bullet", but it doesn't fly #flyingless
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbTsvQsGwb4SJEG by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T08:07:34Z
       
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       Second #flyingless train today, glad I had a theoretical 45 min layover in Milano, consumed almost entirely by late #italo arrival
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbUTRF7TmQJXT8q by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T09:48:38Z
       
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       I was unaware that my #flyingless trip of today would take me through the brandnew Ceneri Base Tunnel. Not much to be seen but an experience nevertheless.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbUxDSPIZufTFYW by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T10:10:42Z
       
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       And how could one be #flyingless more efficiently than by travelling 57 km through the world's longest and deepest railway tunnel (the #GotthardBaseTunnel)?
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbVUBTpfbYutZwW by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T10:31:57Z
       
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       Lake Lucerne (Vierwaldstättersee) in #flyingless mode today.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbVxFjkvF14UnFg by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T12:20:28Z
       
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       The third #flyingless train of today
       
 (DIR) Post #ASInbWTVnoj6d7aYXA by seth@s3th.me
       2023-02-03T12:21:20Z
       
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       @wolfgangcramer those trains are so cool looking
       
 (DIR) Post #ASJV9kibeFGmgEDWwy by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T15:12:01Z
       
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       One more #flyingless (the fourth today, for completeness, all running on time here)
       
 (DIR) Post #ASJV9n78k05C6ti9T6 by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T17:48:24Z
       
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       The fifth (and still not final) #flyingless machine today. If you are following this little 🚂 thread, then please keep reading, there will be a conclusion at the end (and maybe some stats later)
       
 (DIR) Post #ASJV9nauxHtzbFdvsm by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T19:19:33Z
       
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       And here is the sixth and last train on this #flyingless journey, departing Valence TGV on time, but they announce some delay in order to pick up passengers from Paris - I actually think that's great, a form of solidarity for us who live up in the Drôme valley.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASJV9oDucJ5tYBt4fA by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T19:32:27Z
       
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       The stats on this #flyingless trip are simple: I walked one km between my home in the Drôme valley and the station, and about the same between my hotel and Venezia Sta Lucia, the rest was rail. To go to Venice, with a stop in Grenoble, was 852 km, 770 of these electric. To go back with no hotel night was 1217 km, 1135 electric.Unnecessary to even calculate the carbon footprint - you cannot get lower than that, by car it would have been 685 km.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASJV9otk6mYRdvSTrc by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T19:36:50Z
       
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       But the sad part is this: No involved rail operator would tell you that this form of #flyingless travel is possible, let alone sell you a ticket. To find out about existing connections, your only help is bahn.de, and getting the tickets is a piece-by-piece operation, of course with no help if you miss connections.This is as if a shop had non-polluting goods, but they would hide them from your eyes and remove most normal warranty if you still insisted to buy them.
       
 (DIR) Post #ASJV9qcngkBszxXyjY by wolfgangcramer@fediscience.org
       2023-02-03T19:39:36Z
       
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       So what people do is fly or drive, claiming that it is "convenient" or even "the only possible way". I find that depressing and I am sick to hear governments claim to have "climate policies" as long as these simple obstacles are not removed.(end of my thread on this week's #flyingless effort)