Post AS3gVB2byADGLymIhk by ignis@poketopia.city
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(DIR) Post #AS3fxt7tYU2xEfNNNw by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T04:22:25Z
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Trying out #SecureScuttlebutt. Seems like this is the logical conclusion of the HO-LI moderation proposed by @Wander.My logic: If blocking is primarily user-based (LI) and strong moderation is just to protect the instance owner (HO), then it'll be easier for everyone to just host their own servers, which SSB does out-of-the-box by syncing full histories (ala Matrix)?You can find me @avCM7XsbrbErkw0r8qa5O0nEgzMB+V7bKiwy1UAsijA=.ed25519#SSB
(DIR) Post #AS3fxtwwUgsbmzG8x6 by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T04:26:41Z
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So. There seems to be two ways of doing fully decentralised networking with non-24/7 devices.First is to sync everything. Like a git repo, or Matrix (arewep2pyet), or SSB. I think.The second is to resend on fail. Like ActivityPub, or email. I think.Store-and-forward relays come into play somewhere I guess LOLHere's an effort to make a bridge, by the way. https://github.com/ssbc/ssb-db/issues/202BRIDGE ALL THE THINGS!
(DIR) Post #AS3fxueBttTTx7UgMa by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T04:27:42Z
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First thoughts: The discovery is not good. You need to discover users by other means. Google perhaps?
(DIR) Post #AS3fxvBVu085cT5IIq by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T04:36:00Z
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Aww, man. Similar sentiments here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34480864Guess it's back to making self hosting simpler for AP xD But that comes with similar discovery problems, doesn't it? I don't know how to deal with that; a centralised search engine perhaps (this can be done in SSB too I think?). Or Back To The Shared Instances.Here's another alternative, which Edward Snowden just joined: https://nostr.com/#nostr
(DIR) Post #AS3fxvfe5yET7vBMGm by a@social.exozy.me
2023-01-27T05:15:54Z
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@ignis The main thing I dislike is that nostr solves the wrong problems. Sure, AP is far from perfect, but we don't need yet another protocol. What should we be aiming to solve? Maybe https://discuss.coding.social/t/major-challenges-for-the-fediverse/67I also find it humorous that nostr advertises itself of only having a "chance of working". Yeah, cause it's so disemboweled and simplistic it can't even work 100% of the time. You can probably fix that with DHTs, but MUH COMPLEXITY! (See https://git.exozy.me/a/Kela for some untested ideas)
(DIR) Post #AS3fy0KukTcVb4WN9M by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T04:39:04Z
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One thing is true though; idealism is nothing unless you have better features, and it's likely that idealism would make it harder to have them.Or just Bridge All The Things and ignore that your preferred protocol is unpopular xD Which is fine too.
(DIR) Post #AS3gEZiqx3zhyicUXw by smallcircles@social.coop
2023-01-27T05:18:56Z
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@a @ignis #Nostr was also discussed on HN.. just disappeared from the front page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34526562
(DIR) Post #AS3gVB2byADGLymIhk by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T05:21:55Z
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@a Hmm, I'm fine with having another protocol due to bridging being possible between open standards.I'll take a look at the links!
(DIR) Post #AS3gweFbTdUwlQxDtI by a@social.exozy.me
2023-01-27T05:26:54Z
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@ignis btw the second link to the Kela protocol is just some random ideas I wrote down, which probably don't actually work. Maybe someday when I have more time I'll flesh it out and try implementing it...
(DIR) Post #AS3h0q4FU4u2ZVdpI0 by a@social.exozy.me
2023-01-27T05:27:41Z
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@ignis btw the second link to the Kela protocol is just some random ideas I wrote down, which probably don't actually work. Maybe someday when I have more time I'll flesh it out and try implementing it...I used to be enthusiastic about bridging, but bridging is usually not perfect and can be a pain.
(DIR) Post #AS3i2c4eaAclhmEysC by ignis@poketopia.city
2023-01-27T05:39:09Z
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@a Quite true. I am naive.
(DIR) Post #AS3nJOy93j9Lkq1NA0 by charliebrownau@pieville.net
2023-01-27T06:38:15Z
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