Post AS2IdDenXFQwj1yuno by wall0159@aus.social
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 (DIR) Post #AS1OHMvcmyfrfyr9H6 by BrentToderian@mastodon.online
       2023-01-25T07:19:28Z
       
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       CNN reports that there have been over 600 mass shootings (officially defined as 4+ victims not including the shooter) each year in the United States over the last three years.More than a dozen a week.Approaching two a day.US gun ownership is 1.2 guns per person.It’s the guns.#GunControl #GunReform #MassShooting #Guns #UnitedStates
       
 (DIR) Post #AS1OHNNz5XML5w7nTk by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-25T07:42:46Z
       
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       @BrentToderian And, yet ... facts ...Actual experts on violence know the things that drive violent behavior. And, object-charms aren't on the list.But, no political party or political grifter will address the *proven* drivers of violence because it's inconvenient to the owners of this plantation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AS1OHNoDW0LKPIOkMq by wall0159@aus.social
       2023-01-25T10:31:33Z
       
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       @isucceed @BrentToderian I would rather a violent person was armed with a baseball bat and not a machine gun
       
 (DIR) Post #AS1OHOLBXQiM3Xp4kq by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-25T18:08:05Z
       
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       @wall0159 @BrentToderian Why would that be your preference?Have you used - or faced - either weapon?Do you know the statistics of injuries and deaths from those two weapons?You know there are already laws against hurting people with either of those?Have you googled "Luty" or "FGC-9"?I would rather our society was not a bucket of crabs. But, there are things we don't - and can't - actually control.I would rather innocent people have the human right to self-preservation.
       
 (DIR) Post #AS1OHOnBrJ7FSOvRPE by wall0159@aus.social
       2023-01-25T22:59:46Z
       
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       @isucceed @BrentToderian ahh, so in your eyes a psycho armed with a machine gun is not obviously worse than a psycho armed with a baseball bat? Why don't countries arm their soldiers with baseball bats then? Save a lot of money and they'll never run out of ammo!
       
 (DIR) Post #AS1OHPCiKPX4jYrpBo by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-26T02:11:51Z
       
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       @wall0159 @BrentToderian I asked questions. Your response is straw and hyperbole.Do you have (a) actual competence in any relevant material any deeper than a slogan that you are parroting from some political grifter, and (b) interest in discourse deeper than political slogans?If the answer to both are affirmative, we can have a conversation. If not, then not - and because I'm weary of literally 40 years wack-slogan after every event when people with no real investment just want to spew.
       
 (DIR) Post #AS1OHPg8Z14ICodK3E by threat@webl.dd0s.lol
       2023-01-26T02:48:17.610845Z
       
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       @isucceed @wall0159 @BrentToderian I've legally owned firearms for decades and have had zero issues with LE nor have I engaged in a violent act.As mentioned, firearms are objects to be operated.  Operators are the delta.  Whether intoxicated, radicalised, deluded by some political brainwashing, or simply mad... Therein lies your catalyst.If I was in an altercation, I would rather be up against a firearm versus a baseball bat.  But both capable of carnage.  Then again a lawn chair, coffee cup, canine chew toy, garden hose, water, etc.. can be lethal.  Next up on the "ban this because I don't have reasoning skills" list...
       
 (DIR) Post #AS2DNFvgoqW7MwS2HQ by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-26T03:16:33Z
       
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       @threat @BrentToderian @wall0159 When we drill down with most "ban things" people these days, we find they're not really looking for an in-the-world outcome so much as a relief of personal emotional suffering.We get language like "I don't want to see X anymore", and "I don't want to have to be afraid"And, the authoritarianism is reflexive: "Big brother make it stop."It reflects the psychological torture they're really under.I write about this in the upcoming book...
       
 (DIR) Post #AS2IdDenXFQwj1yuno by wall0159@aus.social
       2023-01-26T08:02:28Z
       
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       @threat @isucceed @BrentToderian I'm sure most gun owners in the US are very responsible. I mean that sincerely.The problem (as I see it as a foreigner not living in North America) is that a minority are irresponsible/violent, and that they should be denied easy access to guns.That's hard to do in the USA now, because there are so many guns.I think the USA, should implement registration of guns, and people with a violent history would be prevented from getting a gun license. You need a gun amnesty, and offer to buy unlicensed guns from people, no questions asked. Licensed firearms need to be kept in a gun-safe when not being used. This is what was done in Australia in the late 90s, and there has been almost no gun crime since.Responsible and non-violent gun owners (probably most of them) can keep their guns. I imagine you'll object to this, because I presume it's been suggested before (I'm not across the debate). Why is this idea a no-go? (genuine question)
       
 (DIR) Post #AS2IdE51xiPw2OFrgu by threat@webl.dd0s.lol
       2023-01-26T13:19:45.597754Z
       
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       @wall0159 @isucceed @BrentToderian > I'm sure most gun owners in the US are very responsible. I mean that sincerely.Fact.  The United States is not the horror show other countries and mass-media would portray it to be.  When I became a citizen years ago I was dumbfounded as to why other regions think that a small group of morons represents a nation.> The problem (as I see it as a foreigner not living in North America) is that a minority are irresponsible/violent, and that they should be denied easy access to guns.That's hard to do in the USA now, because there are so many guns.We don't have vending machines with Snickers bars and Glocks everywhere you go.  Citizens who want to own a firearm must undergo state and local background checks. I'm not sure what the quantity of firearms has to do with access in this context.  Even if you reduced the number of firearms there will always be those that can obtain them regardless of their eligibility to own one.  Reduce the number of firearms significantly and the black market and 3D-2A scene thrives.  > I think the USA, should implement registration of guns, and people with a violent history would be prevented from getting a gun license.How does registration solve the violence problem? Majority of violent people committing crimes with a firearm are not walking into a store to buy one. They're purchasing off the street or through markets.  You'll never stop these markets. >You need a gun amnesty, and offer to buy unlicensed guns from people, no questions asked.Many regions of the United States have these buyback programs.  They are not very successful even if given fair market price and no questions asked.> Licensed firearms need to be kept in a gun-safe when not being used. This is what was done in Australia in the late 90s, and there has been almost no gun crime since.Safe is a solid idea.  Especially protecting against theft or access for youth or someone high-risk.  On the other hand if someone kicks your door in and is armed they are not going to politely wait while you walk to your safe and punch in your code. > Responsible and non-violent gun owners (probably most of them) can keep their guns. Everyone (even you) are capable of violence.  We are human, a flawed species.  Being able to keep your wits about you acting in a responsible manner is key to anything, even owning a baseball bat.> I imagine you'll object to this, because I presume it's been suggested before (I'm not across the debate). Why is this idea a no-go? (genuine question)In general I don't have a problem with gun registration or tight laws that involve process. Obtaining the proper licensing to carry took me nearly a year, I've spent a lot of resource on training, practise, and education.As my profile notes, I'm generally neutral.  My politics are fuck politics, just be a decent human being.
       
 (DIR) Post #AS2x8d5T268ojszKQC by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-26T19:52:22Z
       
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       @wall0159 @threat @BrentToderian I do want to address this:> I'm sure most gun owners in the US are very responsible.NO. Most people in the US are not responsible. Their bucket-o-crabs behavior during COVID has demonstrated that.I don't trust them to BREATHE in public.I also recognize the human right of self-preservation, and the presumption of innocence. Without these things we are regressing many hundreds of years.
       
 (DIR) Post #AS2x8deCwvvkTdF4ZU by threat@webl.dd0s.lol
       2023-01-26T20:53:38.709272Z
       
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       @isucceed I like living in a world where we can all voice our opinions regardless of if parties agree.@wall0159 @BrentToderian
       
 (DIR) Post #AS30ZVwzySywHpXRCa by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-26T21:07:33Z
       
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       @threat @BrentToderian @wall0159 One problem with "opinion" is too many don't understand slogan-parroting isn't an opinion. And, it isn't THEIR opinion, but rage-parroting an anti-fact they plagiarized, don't understand, and can't explain.They evaporate when asked to explain the stats and mechanisms they're so certain about.Oh, for conversation with someone who actually has an informed opinion - and one of their own (synthesis)...(Saying I appreciate you)
       
 (DIR) Post #AS30hMPrJ6q924mLey by threat@webl.dd0s.lol
       2023-01-26T21:33:32.614321Z
       
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       @isucceed I find most parrot off what triggers them.  Without taking the time to analyse why they are triggered and giving the problem the respect it deserves.The Internet has made zombiepiling all too easy. @BrentToderian @wall0159
       
 (DIR) Post #AS31rFRkAtcSGawHsu by isucceed@mastodon.online
       2023-01-26T21:39:19Z
       
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       @threat @BrentToderian @wall0159 In the book I'm working on right now, I'm addressing some of this, and how we're arriving to it.Culturally, especially as males, we're "not supposed to express" sadness, horror, fear - so, instead, rage-parrot pseudo-policy demand nonsense.When confronted on the facts, the response is appropriate to being emotion-shamed - but, couched in pseudo-policy language it seems unhinged.I think even the actor is unaware of this underlying process ...
       
 (DIR) Post #AS31tJKOiLnYssUECm by threat@webl.dd0s.lol
       2023-01-26T21:46:55.682181Z
       
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       @isucceed I'm a life-scholar, would be interested in pursuing your book.@BrentToderian @wall0159