Post ARsqx6TpNmI77Qu7LE by kizu@front-end.social
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(DIR) Post #ARsqx0Q3uriKK161dg by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-20T23:50:46Z
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I write funny toots and post them only for myself. That’s the power of mastodon — what I previously wrote and never sent on Twitter, deleting the drafts, here could live written but unseen.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx4TOqOlCtWgkOe by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-20T23:53:32Z
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I still wish mastodon supported something like friend groups. Should I look at friendica? Haha.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx4r9Q5l85BniPw by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2023-01-21T01:13:00Z
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@kizu you can have a separate account with following by approval and post there for followers only.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx5SNBhX7wdDRR2 by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-21T09:49:24Z
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@isagalaev Yes, but what I want is to use the same account with a more flexible control over who'd get which updates.I really don't like the “approval for following” way that was in twitter and is now here — I'd much more prefer to have stuff that is visible for everyone, and then have something extra to those who _I_ follow, regardless of if they follow me. LJ-style.With an extra account I'd basically need to ask mutual followers to follow that extra account, and repeat for any new ones.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx5vnQJ4LPsywIS by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2023-01-21T16:16:46Z
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@kizu understood… Sounds reasonable, but something makes me think it's not going to be implemented in Mastodon proper. May be I'm wrong…
(DIR) Post #ARsqx6TpNmI77Qu7LE by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-21T23:03:38Z
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@isagalaev I mean, given that we don't even yet have an ability to disable comments… probably won't happen.Potentially something like an account on friendica (basically, fediverse facebook) could work — it has groups, and you can even include other fediverse accounts there, and they would get notifications with links to the posts — but for now it seems that there is no way to actually read them without having an account on friendica with the same group rights, which defeats the purpose sadly.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx6zNUTWohHfJWC by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2023-01-21T23:23:48Z
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@kizu my usual approach to these things is that human brain is more flexible than any technical system, so it's easier to adapt to what everyone's doing :-)
(DIR) Post #ARsqx7XPRwkaOpaUYy by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-21T23:29:22Z
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@isagalaev Yep, I just like to explore the options — if friendica did have something like OAuth to get the friends/groups-only posts, it could be a nice alternative to a second mastodon account. I'll probably later look at some other things in fediverse, just so I'll know that I'm not missing something, and then would probably end up creating a “private” account on mastodon if I won't find anything. Similar how on twitter people had a “real_…” accounts, also due to an inability to have groups.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx80Ths0DqzBhs8 by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2023-01-21T23:40:12Z
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@kizu groups sound like a good idea to "technical" people (as in, those who like organizing information around themselves), but most people turn out to be completely disinterested in any such thing. I believe part of the reason why Google+ was unsuccessful was that people simply saw maintaining various circles as a burden.I'm sure it can be done in principle, but the UI needs to be different. I don't know how.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx8UxsWOBNXS3OK by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-21T23:50:37Z
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@isagalaev A lot of things in facebook are built on groups, and I saw them being used a lot when I was semi-active there (usually just “friends only”, sometimes with more strict groups, not from technical people). And facebook basically took its security settings almost one to one from livejournal, where the audience for these was also not technical really.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx90VzDcsxODFZI by kizu@front-end.social
2023-01-21T23:53:16Z
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@isagalaev I'd say the main problem right now — how to provide the proper security for anything like that. People are wary even of mastodon's “DMs but nor really”, and if something would have an ability to target an abstract entity, it would need things like immediate revoking, and end-to-end encryption, which can be hard technically, especially if the goal would be to make them work across the whole fediverse.
(DIR) Post #ARsqx9XpzKHUcjnrVY by isagalaev@mastodon.social
2023-01-21T23:56:38Z
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@kizu I'm starting to think what you're looking for is actually https://matrix.org/. Secure group chat, essentially. And nobody says chat should be necessarily real-time, might as well be occasional postings.
(DIR) Post #ARsr4J3j0q0k9v85DM by ML2@akkoma.sandhill.social
2023-01-21T23:58:31.723165Z
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@isagalaevI use Matrix myself for different things, though admittedly not as often as I use Discord.@kizu