Post AQnfDWbdGjFsP9dFhY by godcock@shitposter.club
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(DIR) Post #AQnXkfX8IZOu11ox2u by Beomus@shitposter.club
2022-12-20T12:36:27.524464Z
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After abandoning social media for so long, I'm struggling to understand the point of just posting random bullshit here. Like yeah shitposting is funny, but nothing we do here really has an impact on our daily lives. And all posting everything you think on the internet does is paint a big target on your back in the future. You're better off spending the time with the people you love.
(DIR) Post #AQnYvxwmHFsaGQlasq by godcock@shitposter.club
2022-12-20T12:49:37.180552Z
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@Beomus Probably less than 1e-5 use as something other than as entertainment/distraction and (faux) (social) status flaunting. These could easily shortly cover for one another.The (auto-)fellatory echochamber may be comforting for most.Other still have nobody to talk to, but since just about nobody makes an effort, that too is for naught, at worst causes more loneliness.There is no point. :|
(DIR) Post #AQnd2GUEeyWXJlfvu4 by Beomus@shitposter.club
2022-12-20T13:35:39.797196Z
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yup, and given that the fediverse serves as a pretty good decentralized archive of all our thoughts, this kind of serves as the perfect way to identify people with "the wrong ideas" albeit not as much as traditional social media.Other than using it for community news and shitposting, social media is nothing but a skinner's box for society, and another force accelerating our collapse.
(DIR) Post #AQnfDWbdGjFsP9dFhY by godcock@shitposter.club
2022-12-20T14:00:06.503159Z
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@Beomus I don't subscribe to the accelerationist take, though I'm yet to dive into Nick Land's (and others'?) writing to an exact feel for the worldview.Calling it a skinner box I also wouldn't agree with: you don't get cocaine, you get the barest minimal of pleasures; it just easily accessible and mentally unchallenging as compared to sitting still and pondering your own problems, your society's, your world's, who you've been a dick to, what you should be doing with your time, etc. That said, I'm an outlier as not having a phone, not having friends, and not using social media other than mastodon, for a year, and 4chan, for 15-ish years, but I wouldn't call it social media since it doesn't conform with the group's members.If 8h-work days weren't the standard (it's not even a legal one; rebel, people; ffs), if they had time to contemplate their position, their goals, their dreams, they would be spending more time with close ones, or doing things they enjoyed. What social media users have is a numbing, comfitting dripfeed of security, misdirected outrage, 'enjoyment', status reinforcement (could be put under security).Also, what would we be collapsing to? A Matrix-style universe I can imagine, but not in the near future. A technocratic, Marxist takeover of world is nearer, yet inherently instable in the short-run (no one leader has had a life-long rule, to my recall, because of internal power struggles).But I also don't know how to revive small-scale, local dialogue (not that I've tried other than for opening a bookclub locally whereupon a beaurocratic cockblock and disinterest of locals disheartened me). Going up to a resting person outside and engaging them in conversation has for me so far rarely been outright hostile, at worst straight answer, uninviting of continual. What I've heard old people describing, what one sees as the backdrop of cafe, restaurant, town square scenes in movies, is lacking. I think.
(DIR) Post #AQniM5A4yXq3kwW51E by godcock@shitposter.club
2022-12-20T14:35:16.216043Z
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@Beomus I vividly remember writing a 2500-word responce, and now it's gone on my end. I'd even editted it. Anyway, I feel bad about pleroma or this instance's version of it not being up to snuff, the quote I just posted about, which I can't get an URI to, seems pertinent to all the stuff I said that is not lost to the void.
(DIR) Post #AQoYHQ7coT6mvrSzyq by Beomus@shitposter.club
2022-12-21T00:17:04.046384Z
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@godcock don't worry dude, I got it! I'll repost it for you.
(DIR) Post #AQoYKvrtEo3OGBmVii by Beomus@shitposter.club
2022-12-21T00:17:43.410258Z
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@godcock for anyone who can't see, this is what @godcock wrote:@Beomus I don't subscribe to the accelerationist take, though I'm yet to dive into Nick Land's (and others'?) writing to an exact feel for the worldview.Calling it a skinner box I also wouldn't agree with: you don't get cocaine, you get the barest minimal of pleasures; it's just easily accessible and mentally unchallenging as compared to sitting still and pondering your own problems, your society's, your world's, who you've been a dick to, what you should be doing with your time, etc. That said, I'm an outlier in: not having a phone, not having friends, and not using social media other than mastodon, for a year, and 4chan, for 15-ish years, but I wouldn't call it social media since it doesn't conform with the group's members.If 8h-work days weren't the standard (it's not even a legal one; rebel, people; ffs), if they had time to contemplate their position, their goals, their dreams, they would be spending more time with close ones, or doing things they enjoyed, there'd not be a reason for the existence of Twitter, SnapChat, Instagram, Facebook. News aggregation could otherwise be done. RSS feeds have existed since 1999. What social media users have is a numbing, comfitting dripfeed of security, misdirected outrage, 'enjoyment', status reinforcement (could be put under security).Also, what would we be collapsing to? A Matrix-style universe I can imagine, but not in the near future. A technocratic, Marxist takeover of world is nearer, yet inherently instable in the short-run (no one leader has had a life-long rule, to my recall, because of internal power struggles).But I also don't know how to revive small-scale, local dialogue (not that I've tried other than for opening a bookclub locally whereupon a beaurocratic cockblock and disinterest of locals disheartened me). Going up to a resting person outside and engaging them in conversation has for me so far rarely been outright hostile, at worst straight answer, uninviting of continual. What I've heard old people describing, what one sees as the backdrop of cafe, restaurant, town square scenes in movies, is lacking. I think.
(DIR) Post #AQoYuKSFokmIeJfX0K by Beomus@shitposter.club
2022-12-21T00:24:07.098288Z
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@godcock man I agree with you. And yes, the fediverse and 4chan don't act like traditional centralised social media. But, like a Skinner's box, there are still behaviours that they train for, although that's less applicable to here and more applicable to 4chan. That site has a culture you must integrate into if you want to participate, here you can say what you want to who you want, and you'll eventually find like minded people.Tangent aside, the dopamine cycles our generation is chasing genuinely scares me, not only for us, but for the world our children will inherit. We should not allow ourselves to be controlled as easily as we have been.
(DIR) Post #AQonYVjUhiCcZLmrkO by godcock@shitposter.club
2022-12-21T03:08:15.155674Z
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@Beomus Soviet states and soviet friend states used to have nationalized televesion channels. These hadn't any commercials, unlike US channels, radio or television, where they're both frequent and long. At some point, enough people got fed up to sufficiently to take up recording desired materials (I'd've said 'copyrighted', but technically advertisements fall under copyright law too) and employing torrenting and other methods of sharing them in a burgeoning, still gray legal area. At some point, around early 2000s a few smart fucks predicted streaming would be a big then, Enron for some reason among them, though the users were really ready so it failed, but but HBO, for example, was, like, hey, I'll show you only movies wo/ ads if you pay me double what you do for the 50 odd channels you pay for and watch 3 of. And it worked.A company or any aggregation of people unconsciously wants to grow and subsume more people, resources, clout. When it become big enough such that fiscal failure is immenent and unavoidable, a lot of people lose their jobs, and just have to find new ones, but along the way other companies get restructured or die. We don't have the benefit of hindsight/history to say whether have zero boots-on-the-ground journalists doing not-opinion pieces will be a bad thing (they literally use/read Twitter and Facebook posts as 'news').Regarding dopamine, gen Z or whatever the people 20--25 years after the millenials were born are, according to various Pew-type questionnaires, very distrustful of both government and big companies. So, just have to way til they enter the labor force for some change, until mills fuck up everything for everyone..I think the (unintentional?) monopolization of internet traffic (like, >80% goes to less than 5 sites, in the Western world; in China/Russia/India, is probably the same number) is a transition, to a more insular, federated one. But it'll take time, and I'm sure as fuck that an insular federated one could just as well be spun to be 'evil' or not serving a common human interest.This feels like another giant tangent mysides, so I'm putting an end to it. Glad you saw the post, I'm not halucinating. I'll finish by saying that we have to be exemplary, provide rationale for our choices and educate/discuss if asked, but not force (since that's never worked), and that will, I'd hope, hasten the change ever so slightly.