Post AQB97YM3H3JdYCyYu8 by MasonBee@sfba.social
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(DIR) Post #AQB3TQ0APZIQI3mYy0 by AtheistIntelligence@mas.to
2022-12-01T22:53:05Z
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It's not worth tiptoeing around trying to not offend religious people because of wacky beliefs. Beliefs aren't people so they are free to be mocked.
(DIR) Post #AQB3TQb2CUmq8P20Qq by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2022-12-01T22:58:06Z
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@AtheistIntelligence I think it's important to distinguish between religions and religious people. For someone raised in a religious environment, letting go of the belief can be a long and difficult process. Mocking the person won't help them.
(DIR) Post #AQB3m9SK9WfITaswXg by AtheistIntelligence@mas.to
2022-12-01T23:01:29Z
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@mansr I agree. Try my best to direct mocking to a religion or a set of beliefs. I used to be religious and I know how difficult it is to separate one's self from a belief, but we aren't our beliefs.
(DIR) Post #AQB7InemWPMsHoyJ0K by MasonBee@sfba.social
2022-12-01T23:25:14Z
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@AtheistIntelligence @mansr As a sociologist, I would have to disagree w/ the statement "we aren't our beliefs." As an atheist, I agree that religious constructs can be wacky, but as a scientist, I have to point out that they are also tools at the foundation of societies (esp. early societies).Many people have a hard time separating themselves from that social structure, even when the structure is so obviously wrong, outdated and flawed.
(DIR) Post #AQB7IoGMGhQSAMYJZg by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2022-12-01T23:41:01Z
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@MasonBee @AtheistIntelligence While I see your point, I'd like to add that the useful parts of religious codes of morality (no murdering, stealing, etc) can be expressed equally well in terms of being good for society. There is simply no need to invoke the divine. Maybe it made enforcement easier in the absence of a proper judicial system, though.Also, our beliefs can and often do change over time. In that view, it is not they that define us but rather the converse.
(DIR) Post #AQB97YM3H3JdYCyYu8 by MasonBee@sfba.social
2022-12-02T00:01:23Z
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@mansr @AtheistIntelligence Religious beliefs didn't just provide morality as a quasi-judicial system though. It formed the basis of health foundations in the absence of early healers and scientists. Religions banned foods and sex practices which were notorious for killing people, prior to science discovering the whys of things. The problem (imo) w/ religion today is the unwillingness of faithful to explore toxic habits & harmful traditions. Religion could be a benign hobby, but its not.
(DIR) Post #AQB9UH1BtepeRX3IVU by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2022-12-02T00:05:26Z
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@MasonBee @AtheistIntelligence The problem is when people mistake "this was practical advice 4000 years ago" for "this is an affront to (my) god and justifies me killing you."
(DIR) Post #AQB9o4dvcJsdqzc3jk by MasonBee@sfba.social
2022-12-02T00:09:04Z
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@mansr @AtheistIntelligence Exactly! The habits are so ingrained, and the traditions so "sacred" that they remain unexplored for may "people of faith." As opposed to the situation being: "This (religion/religious practice) is something that I am really into." it becomes "This is the ONLY way and you are WRONG, and you must be PUNISHED!"
(DIR) Post #AQBAh1NlRSKXfTFl3I by MasonBee@sfba.social
2022-12-02T00:19:00Z
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@mansr @AtheistIntelligence Like, dude... I'm happy you're really into Pokemon, or Lord of the Rings, or Jesus, or knitting, but please don't foist your stanning onto me. I mean, I'm a huge fan of Star Trek, but I am not about to force everyone to learn the Klingon language and suffer eating gahk to prove something 😅 Besides, what would Q think? 😂 (That's #StarTrek humor, not a maga reference)
(DIR) Post #AQBAud3OgvWqGiDPU0 by mansr@society.oftrolls.com
2022-12-02T00:21:28Z
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@MasonBee @AtheistIntelligence Oh, I've watched all the major Star Trek.