Post AQ0TMJcADk2AWVGlkm by arinbasu@qoto.org
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(DIR) Post #AQ0FkVmZEZ6VqvmMgi by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-26T17:53:48Z
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F9or those who havent seen it yet this is the article that everyone is yelling at each other over across the #fediversehttps://jeffreyfreeman.me/eugen-rochko-ceo-of-mastodon-found-to-support-nazis-agenda/#mastoadmin #fediblock
(DIR) Post #AQ0Mgn9fOtaWFmkztA by sebastian_hos@qoto.org
2022-11-26T19:11:33Z
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@freemoI joined qoto earlier this year. Qoto was on the list of recommended instances.I haven't seen one term being used: virtue signaling. I think it's possible that once a name has become unpalatable in a group--especially with the aire of "you're with us or against us"--it's hard to pull out of that. Personally, I don't see what the big deal is; it seems like a misunderstanding around the term "free speech", which for some includes hate speech, causing others to think qoto supports that.
(DIR) Post #AQ0SMxuOJCLNXSXc2K by BobKerns@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:15:10Z
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@freemo I have some empathy for the situation Eugen finds himself in, but caving to Nazis is never a good idea (not to mention, never the ethical choice).
(DIR) Post #AQ0SjviacP1HPDyILI by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:19:24Z
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@BobKerns Agreed
(DIR) Post #AQ0TC1hlx9Qq58zEv2 by arinbasu@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:22:57Z
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@BobKerns @freemo In theory whether you're literally in his good books shouldn't matter in a fully decentralised federated architecture. Too much emphasis on #Mastodon smacks of centralisation. Break free and set up the best science server.
(DIR) Post #AQ0TC3GCAeYquC6FDE by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:24:24Z
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@arinbasu Its not all on him, a lot of blame lies in many of the leaders of the community who run large admins who are acting irresponsibly.@BobKerns
(DIR) Post #AQ0TMJcADk2AWVGlkm by arinbasu@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:26:21Z
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@freemo @BobKerns Yes, the 'oligarchs'!
(DIR) Post #AQ0UFmW2T5Wo5Nqw9w by arinbasu@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:36:22Z
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@freemo @BobKerns The oligarches with their warped world view are 'deciding' which servers will federate with whom, and whether people will be allowed to quote post and everything their little minds can comprehend. Challenge them at the peril of facing their rude vitriolic outbursts and being banned. Tomorrow they will decide for the rest of us what we are allowed to write! These are tiny little sufferers of Dunning Kruger syndrome, with zero knowledge of the complexity of science and humanities and with some 'coding literacy' are out there to fix the world's problem by sweeping the uncomfortable stuff under the carpet! Talk of Musk being evil! š
(DIR) Post #AQ0VlH0FGdZXZUYtvc by pj@qoto.org
2022-11-26T20:53:14Z
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@freemoI think this passage says it all:"The reason QOTO became a focal point at this time is because *we were one of the only servers that allowed our users to choose what content they wanted to block*, and made our blocklist optional, but at the same time *had a zero tolerance stance for hate speech and prejudice*. It became a haven for the LGBTQ+ community that wanted the freedom to choose for themselves what instances make the cut or not."Do you want to be treated as an *adult* - free to explore the world but held responsible for what you do and say, or as an *infant* that needs protection because they don't know yet how to navigate this world and cannot be held responsible for what they do and say?
(DIR) Post #AQ1faj7HaxJCHJQJ84 by BobKerns@qoto.org
2022-11-27T01:14:25Z
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@arinbasu @freemo The reason this matters is that the joinmastodon list is not itself federated, but it is what people encounter when they wish to join.I would not have found it if I had joined a few days later.And I wouldnāt have been happy with any of the choices I was presented with. Thatās not good for the #fediverse, and itās not good for people fleeing Twitter. Often #qoto is exactly the right place for them.
(DIR) Post #AQ1fajjDJveMAxAbFg by BobKerns@qoto.org
2022-11-27T01:15:48Z
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@arinbasu @freemo (I have plugged qoto on Twitter, and I plan to do so again soon).
(DIR) Post #AQ1fakOgpipKFaZits by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-27T10:18:04Z
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@BobKerns Mucha ppreciated@arinbasu
(DIR) Post #AQ1iM9cd47M20DpPWa by DaveyDelimbo@shitposter.club
2022-11-27T10:49:08.155452Z
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@freemo hm š¤ - yes, cancelculture reaching the fediverse...Luckily I'm comoletely neutral - so I'm not in the sport of hunting / witchhuntijg / canceling anyone...When extreme left finds extreme right, or the other way arround - it's logical that the minority of extremists are going to find eachother lol...Red VS Blue... if you mix those, you grt purple... that's why in the netherlands we have (had) a "Paars Cabinet" (a Purple Government) - Not left, not right but through the middle was the slogan š¤£š¤So yes, if you get tribalism , just like in reallife - diversity, minority groups, different ethnicities, - all those things USUALLY have an attitude of "Live & Let Live"...It is normal that when mainculture starts crusading by redefining the norms and ideas about free-speech (dialing it down quite a bit - with indeed probably the idea in mind "to protect minorities, prevent or counter discrimination, racism, hate crimes, seperatism etc.)But at the same time "the righteous ones" - the crusaders are of course the ones that initially start attacking the status-quo... Which indeed starts with the very honest question "is this the world / society we want to be (in / part of / identify with / agreeing with)...So by doing that, you are creating "identifiers" - different groups of people with different ideas of what is right and what is wrong... Morals & Values.Mocking & blacksheeping others based on selfclaimed superior morality stated by minorities has a binding effect: it promotes herd & tribal behaviours - it's typically what minorities understandably do: Find a community where they find sameness, safety, likeminded and connected similarness - a tribal identity... Again, all very natural social behaviour lol..Not all tribes go to war tho... Not every tribe is a tribe of warriors... Wether it's warriors for justice (greenpeace) lol which back in the days much milder then it is now š¤£ - Everything seems like it was much milder then it is now...I mean - I like nature... I woukd support greenpece, WWF and the common pro wildlife & nature preserves.... But that's something completely different then actively joining extinction rebellion...So that's where the social healthy tribalism that we all have - lol even as a non-radicalist, non-extremist but also non-neutralist (because I really think societies need to be aware there is cultural diversity and different viewpoints and ideas)..Those that cannot handle the fact that there is a variety of ideas in the world, they can just stay in their little self-maintaining bubble... Everyone knows that Turkish communities for example are very much private and focussed towards their own community within society...Everyone sees that, but it's also ok - because they are not hurting anyone, they do their thing, contribute, give the general greeting - but still are a very exclusive group towards outsiders...Lol and of course there too you have the Turkish Mafia, the PKK or the GreyWolves etc - that DO get the news.It's more about political trends and currents throughout societies and the influence of dominant culture... Globalist or anti-globalist, mainstream or niche - nobody can escape the influence of political agendas and active "cultural & social enterpreneuring" - meaning oligarchs like the Soros foundation, like the Bill & Melinda Gates foundation and many other unseen players & parties are spending their billions on activy shaping and tinkering societies...And again, I belief it's their right to do so - instead of capitalist, they take a type if humanist or socialist approach - I don't know how to call it... But they don't invest in material things, they invest in visions and ideas, philosophies and ideas - like the people at Davos do as well lol...And those ideas, and ideals, when they meet a very big bag of money and a couple of people that can organise, and a couple of political parties that are directly linked to these organisations haha - well yes - obviously that is going to impact and resculp - or atleast affect societies, people definately will notice let's say that...Cultural innovation, renovation, reshaping... It's a battle of ideas & philosophies, forcing us to be confronted not with "who we are" - but "how & who we want to be"... That takes a certain maturity and love for philosophy - and the capability to just zoom out and detach.These identities based on groups / tribes / political colour / sexual preference or moral superiority - well that's fine, but the Self should not be mistakingly be identified as that... Because that is where "being part of a group" turns extemist. If you identify as the group itself, you become like the hooligan - which is fine to by me, just be aware of it... The hooligan says: If you touch my Club, you touch Me... and if you Touch me, I Touch you...Things like Black Lives Matter & Extinction Rebellion and others are very good at that - Knights of Honour on their Moral High Horse...They act like crusaders, and probably are... Backed by their Order of Templars lol... I won't get to deep on that...But as you see: THIS - This article you shared and the entire evolution & movement and all that going on... Is not stand-alone, it's not a coĆÆncidence, it has nothing to do with chance & everything with probability...It is what it is: It is a movement, and it is in motion... Whatever people think of it is up to the people, every person is different ;) - lol even those in a group that "think" they "are" the grou, are just individuals like you and I haha...Goodmorning,and thanks for sharing - lol although I think there might be an agenda behind that lol... which is fine - people should not fear ideas... They can just look at it and go:"yea yea, that's fine - but not for me, thank you!" - and move on... Unless they choose otherwise of course, that depends on the person... Personal Freedom ;)Good day š