Post APzBHwePfGo5oM7zeq by paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange
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 (DIR) Post #APzBHw4xn4S02PXgP2 by warkittens@infosec.exchange
       2022-11-26T02:36:21Z
       
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       Reading threads of people brainstorming on how to moderate the fediverse and it's obvious a good 80% to 90% of these people have never had to moderate anything remotely as toxic as social media. Or anything at all.I moderated a default subreddit. I don't care if you paid me a living wage. I would have burned out the same way I burned out being unpaid. It has nothing at all to do with what you get in return. It is quite literally soul-crushing, and my subreddit wasn't even as toxic as it could have been.I want things to be the best that they can, but they need to be addressed be people who have had heavy experience with this kind of thing. Also — you are never going to find a one size fits all answer. Is everyone going to have to go with this one solution or get defederated?I dunno, man. I want a solution, but so far the things I'm hearing that excite people are to me, with the moderating experience I have, not reassuring.
       
 (DIR) Post #APzBHwePfGo5oM7zeq by paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange
       2022-11-26T04:00:01Z
       
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       @warkittens at a certain point, there is no amount of money/compensation that can help you survive long term abusive users.one of my smarter bosses at one time said "sometimes, no matter what they pay, there are customers you need to fire". but with moderation, there are an endless supply needing it.i only survived because we had a rotation so you only had to be "in the fire" so long.i have a huge respect for those willing to do this. necessary but incredibly hard.
       
 (DIR) Post #APzBHxsd5tlzcjmrSK by warkittens@infosec.exchange
       2022-11-26T04:14:33Z
       
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       @paul_ipv6Exactly. Everything you said.Anything that gets implemented absolutely has to have swap in/out positions.
       
 (DIR) Post #APzBHybIPpVBrGgX4q by frickinLasers@qoto.org
       2022-11-26T05:01:58Z
       
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       @warkittens @paul_ipv6 The comments in this thread are focused on a small number of overworked mods, which appears incompatible with large volunteer-run communities. I'd like to hear some comments on a Slashdot-style model, where the workload is spread out amongst active users to be much more manageable.https://fosstodon.org/@dmoore/109405390974243335