Post APuDq4fVadPgdpF6P2 by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
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(DIR) Post #APivwM77k0HdeBcHCK by ploum@mamot.fr
2022-11-18T09:05:42Z
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Each new generation on the web needs to learn that there’s no such thing as a permanent web identity on a commercial web service.The only long-term solution to maintain your identity is:1. your own domain name2. Your own website/blog3. Several backupsEverything else is temporary. Your accounts on myspace, facebook, medium, twitter, google plus, youtube, tiktok, mastodon will one day disappear or become useless.You don’t have a "community" on those websites. Only ephemeral discussions.
(DIR) Post #APivwNc0AgZqIF4Rxw by ploum@mamot.fr
2022-11-18T09:14:53Z
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Want to be verified on the whole Internet?Buy a domain name.You will end up paying 8$ a year instead of per month and keep your identity for as long as you live.
(DIR) Post #APjH2PtQhXWw8uwUM4 by Moon@shitposter.club
2022-11-18T13:18:12.798408Z
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@ploum sadly the weak link here is dns and the registrar system
(DIR) Post #APjIGRzRnjJueg0rCa by hakui@tuusin.misono-ya.info
2022-11-18T13:31:57.977455Z
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@ploum hosting costs money too so it's not just the domain costs
(DIR) Post #APjRr5a0z3ITS9f87c by sarvo@novoa.nagoya
2022-11-18T15:19:20.075Z
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@ploum@mamot.fr KEYOXIDE
(DIR) Post #APjX18zHfWsCgj5zuK by Mathijs_@mastodon.nl
2022-11-18T11:52:43Z
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@ploum The items in the bullet points are also temporary.
(DIR) Post #APjXBnGSm4m8V8D2Jc by wrigleyfield@fediscience.org
2022-11-18T14:54:00Z
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@ploum I agree with your larger point, but I mean… I was in a densely networked IRL organization for 19 years before it folded, and I necessarily lost touch with most of my looser ties in that group when it did, but that doesn’t mean it was never a real community. Communities don’t need to last forever to count.
(DIR) Post #APjYYma9ZsH100wf1k by lambalicious@aleph.land
2022-11-18T16:30:54Z
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@ploum But you don't have a domain name on this infra either. Only an ephemeral reference, that ownership requires a payment and can be turned over, confiscated or pre-jacked without recourse.Get me a correct solution for point (1) and I'll believe in a "long-term" internet identity.
(DIR) Post #APjjYVAjPHFYUz7g24 by patrick@social.vande-walle.eu
2022-11-18T15:22:44Z
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@ploum there are very few ID checks when buying a domain name and even registration proxy services if you want to hide your ID.I could buy Donaldtrump.com, yet it does not prove I am Donald Trump. A domain name does not prove your identity.
(DIR) Post #APjjYVilMkTKCX2r4q by tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.net
2022-11-18T18:37:38Z
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@patrick @ploum This is not his point. The point is not to link to your physical identity but to your digital identity.You can proove you have control over a domain to other digital services (this is how letsencrypt works for example). The same mechanism can be used to link a Twitter account to a personal website.No one cares if DonaldTrump is a dog. We cares about what the POTUS dog says and do.
(DIR) Post #APjjwa9yVul8uzFedM by tuxicoman@social.jesuislibre.net
2022-11-18T18:41:55Z
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@ploum Asymetrical key/pair is more efficient. Transportable. Free.Look at #SSH identity system. I trust that more than my DNS service trying to lure me into a commercial portal.Domains belong to the upper TLD. Can seized. Can have prices raised. Costs a fortune for each human in the world. Has limited namespace.
(DIR) Post #APlMybbwBGBrMsFKqm by josquindebaz@octodon.social
2022-11-19T12:55:21Z
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@ploum@bortzmeyer You are absolutely right. But why do we want something permanent? Can we simply take advantage of the impermanence of a still young technology and even of ever renewed practices?
(DIR) Post #APlMyc7UHxQYwj0X1k by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2022-11-19T13:33:06Z
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@josquindebaz @ploum I want permanent things. I want my articles from 20 years ago to be still there (specially when they are referenced from other places). I believe in history and archives.
(DIR) Post #APlUYEM4p1JbLTlJ56 by josquindebaz@octodon.social
2022-11-19T14:58:51Z
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@bortzmeyer @ploum I will record a podcast on the question of Web archives this week. Timeliness, indeed?
(DIR) Post #APm9jxQpfFd2SEhGqW by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-11-19T22:40:32Z
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@ploum I wish it were reliably 8$ a year. I did find such a bargain once, paid for 10y. Next time I pay, it'll be 30$, and I will change then. And it's messy, and I'm frustrated. I just want a low price dns goddamit.
(DIR) Post #APuCAJ6JRNsrHmIev2 by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-23T19:44:57.441186Z
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@bortzmeyer @josquindebaz @ploum Which makes me wonder if there is a good way to keep a mirror of your site, I got some via git and rsync.
(DIR) Post #APuCYrfMZyGbREP8rI by bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr
2022-11-23T19:49:45Z
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@lanodan @ploum @josquindebaz wget --mirror ?
(DIR) Post #APuCkNvgxtZggdXGRE by lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me
2022-11-23T19:51:27.634977Z
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@bortzmeyer @ploum @josquindebaz That would be quite expensive on trying to fetch updates.
(DIR) Post #APuDUZwQdZu1GHuID2 by Relected@shitposter.club
2022-11-23T20:00:19.503155Z
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@otyugh @ploum .xyz TLD on namecheap for $1 a year
(DIR) Post #APuDq4fVadPgdpF6P2 by otyugh@pouet.chapril.org
2022-11-23T20:04:05Z
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@Relected @ploum Yeah but what about next year ? If I can put 100$ to have it for 100 year, i'll gladly but it now ; but if not, it's worthless. The price could go x1000 next year, no control on theses.