Post APsM26XAtFeZDffizY by ericsfraga@fediscience.org
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(DIR) Post #APsIKovmAAQwJFqdf6 by worldsendless@qoto.org
2022-11-22T21:45:08Z
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Coming across another "#vscode vs #emacs" thread, I just have to ask, how is vscode at doing email? How about RSS feeds? Spreadsheets? Daily agendas? Because emacs is very, very good at those...
(DIR) Post #APsJOZrqD6lghgMZ3g by avelino@clj.social
2022-11-22T21:57:00Z
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@worldsendless I really enjoy programming using emacs, but aren't we trying to use the same tool for too many things and failing to use better tools for each need?
(DIR) Post #APsJfg8U9pup4GIpAO by dekkzz76@emacs.ch
2022-11-22T22:00:05Z
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@worldsendless ...and the best bits wont be locked away behind a paywall as microsoft have done with .dotnet
(DIR) Post #APsK6tNj1BUXy3PJdQ by worldsendless@qoto.org
2022-11-22T22:05:02Z
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@avelino That is an excellent question. I think it comes down to whether the benefits of cross-pollination out-weigh the problems with too much entanglement. In this case, my view is that emacs is a clear winner, because it excels at interfaces and text-management, and the since those things can be very profitably construed into that problem space, Emacs benefits outweigh the down-sides. Not only does one get to keep benefits of common highly-developed interface, the considerable cognitive burden of context-shifting is minimized. This is a clear win in my view.
(DIR) Post #APsLSU2g0hIphgQBuK by mikelygee@mastodon.world
2022-11-22T22:20:06Z
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@worldsendless @avelino For me, one of the most attractive things about emacs is being able to do just about everything I need to without having to move my fingers off the home keys. I'm much slower at entering and editing text or code in other programs. I also find it speeds things up to be able to move between code and external documentation (generally org files) seamlessly.
(DIR) Post #APsM26XAtFeZDffizY by ericsfraga@fediscience.org
2022-11-22T22:26:33Z
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@worldsendless Writing code, for me, is a part of a much larger process that includes writing prose, project management, analysing and visualising data, and creating diagrams. I need a tool that seamlessly supports all these activities with minimal friction. #orgmode in #Emacs does the job brilliantly. And for email, #mastodon (of course), IRC, ...VS Code looks good for just one of these bits, from what I can see.
(DIR) Post #APvckQL4naN47r32Cu by publicvoit@graz.social
2022-11-24T12:17:59Z
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@worldsendless Don't get me wrong here. I love #Emacs and I'm probably working in Emacs for the majority of my computer hours.However, Emacs is NOT doing "very, very good" at #email - at all.I can't accept meeting invitations, it doesn't link to any groupware server in an easy and reliable way, I can't compose invitations.There may be hacks but so far, I didn't see anything I'd recommend to anybody.For the average business usage, Emacs is a total failure with respect to email. 😔
(DIR) Post #APvsM9B0YTfnDKmgxk by mhd@tilde.zone
2022-11-24T12:45:30Z
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@publicvoit @worldsendless Do we regard "groupware" (i.e. Outlook) features as core elements of "email"?
(DIR) Post #APvsM9at0GNCVatMIa by publicvoit@graz.social
2022-11-24T12:50:14Z
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@mhd @worldsendless I consider managing invitations as core elements of business email usage, yes. I don't want to switch from my MUA to a web interface to simply press the "accept"-button or to compose an invitation email notification.
(DIR) Post #APvsMA17QjMBoxAJBg by bthalpin@mastodon.social
2022-11-24T14:06:25Z
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@publicvoit @mhd @worldsendless I couldn't tell you how (but I think it's through gnu-icalendar) but I can click to accept invitations in Gnus.
(DIR) Post #APvsMAUte1AzJJ65bM by publicvoit@graz.social
2022-11-24T14:09:23Z
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@bthalpin @mhd @worldsendless Sounds like a "works on my machine" solution and not like a groupware integration. Please correct me if I'm wrong. I'd really like to read about Emacs workflows for business.
(DIR) Post #APvsMAraHfKARfiCxs by bthalpin@mastodon.social
2022-11-24T14:50:23Z
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@publicvoit @mhd @worldsendless It's an I-don't-quite-know-how-it-works reply, but gnus-icalendar (which I think is built-in) gives Gnus some iCal functionality (so integration, if limited). I *think* this is what gives me the accept/decline buttons to click but I couldn't confirm without a bit of experimentation. (require 'gnus-icalendar)(gnus-icalendar-setup)
(DIR) Post #APvsMBMmPgHI0QJ7aa by worldsendless@qoto.org
2022-11-24T15:12:49Z
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@bthalpin @publicvoit @mhd I've wondered why those "accept" buttons just work...