Post APk4raHqiDeKtxOPAW by arachnomyrmex@eldritch.cafe
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 (DIR) Post #APjtDoPLgzyvcMjW08 by WomanCorn@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:26:03Z
       
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       What good is a Code of Conduct on a federated platform?Jerks will just go to a different instance.Is there a real value there?
       
 (DIR) Post #APjuALUSqnMV182LJ2 by pee_zombie@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:36:38Z
       
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       @WomanCorn yes, absolutely! its about locus of control corresponding better to real-world conditions; you can't make people you dont like stop existing, but you CAN limit your exposure to them. booting people you dont like off your instance and managing federation is a good way of doing this IMO. do you not think so?
       
 (DIR) Post #APjuseJoD23e9ZB7Zo by WomanCorn@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:44:38Z
       
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       @pee_zombie I saw a conversation where people were talking about what instance is best* and mentioning a specific instance having a great Code of Conduct and I was very confused.It's _nice_ that most people on Schelling are part of the same social circle, but I follow enough off-instance people that the Schelling CoC doesn't really have much to do with what I see.* for $minority $activity, of course.
       
 (DIR) Post #APjv36lXIXGdHD8PlA by pee_zombie@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:46:31Z
       
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       @WomanCorn yeah, this very much depends on:1. the degree to which one uses local vs federated TL2. the federation policy of the instanceboth of which we've barely begun figuring out, admittedly, but i imagine that these will become more important over time as we encounter moderation incidents and preferences emerge subsequently
       
 (DIR) Post #APjv53BvYfgCloPBYW by WomanCorn@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:46:53Z
       
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       @pee_zombie if you de-federate other instances, well, that's a very coarse filter.If I block or unfollow people that's fine, but the instance CoC doesn't really come into it.
       
 (DIR) Post #APjvAnpFbIfCqrXcH2 by pee_zombie@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:47:55Z
       
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       @WomanCorn instance CoC is also a signal to OTHER instance admins what sort of content they can expect to see from here; for ex, say we were explicitly a free-speech-maximalist instance, certain speech-conservative instances might choose to defederate from us proactively
       
 (DIR) Post #APjvvpO7bpbDJ9H7pY by WomanCorn@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T20:56:25Z
       
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       @pee_zombie oh yes.I have a pinned <what to expect from this account> warning.(My favorite one is the one that says "I will not send you angry bees in the mail."Ah, here it is: https://theungrumpablegrinch.tumblr.com/coc )
       
 (DIR) Post #APjziiArWD4YzE4fVw by Azure@tailswish.industries
       2022-11-18T21:23:08.549571Z
       
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       @WomanCorn Two things mostly:(a) Advertising a code of conduct potentially keeps people you don't want to deal with from being your problem as an instance admin(b) It signals to people what they're going to get if they federate with you and makes them more willing to do so.I, for example, have a pretty liberal approach toward federation. If I have someone being nasty to one of my users, whether I notify the other admin and block the nasty user, or decide I'd rather block the whole instance depends heavily on my expectations for the instance as a whole. CoC is one factor in that.(I don't expect people to lie in their CoC, since it also affects what users you'll get.)
       
 (DIR) Post #APjziijbR2rUiyKPfE by WomanCorn@schelling.pt
       2022-11-18T21:38:51Z
       
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       @Azure I can see where it adds a lot of value for the instance admin.I'm not sure how much value it adds for a non-admin user, except that it tells you a lot about the admin, which is valuable on its own, but not in a straightforward way.:-/If the CoC uses subcultural shibboleths, that tells me way more about what will happen then the listed rules do.
       
 (DIR) Post #APk4raHqiDeKtxOPAW by arachnomyrmex@eldritch.cafe
       2022-11-18T22:36:26Z
       
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       @WomanCorn if someone on your instance posts a bigoted reply to someone who doens't know your instance from adam.mastodon.social, they can check your instance rules to see if they should bother reaching out to you to take admin action, or just send the report to their own admin recommending a defed