Post APjW4VT0RoCVJz2OQq by moparisthebest@moparisthe.best
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 (DIR) Post #APievIJQguGyLYHRdg by adam@hax0rbana.social
       2022-11-18T06:10:58Z
       
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       @llebrun I know some people who would love to help build and run it if only it could get funded so they could do so without burning out (or leaving their day job and not being able to pay the bills as a result).
       
 (DIR) Post #APigmsCo4Ut2yAILCq by llebrun@mastodon.social
       2022-11-18T03:19:04Z
       
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       The collapse of Twitter for (basically) self-inflicted reasons makes a strong case for building online infrastructure structured as a non-profit or public utility.People rely on these platforms for public information, use them for democratic debate and many invest their livelihoods in them.These platforms are too important to public safety, peoples’ livelihoods and democracy to leave in the hands of eccentric billionaires or the whims of stock markets.
       
 (DIR) Post #APjW482dXgRQfXWVdY by michellelaverick@www.folk-music.uk
       2022-11-18T15:59:22Z
       
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       @llebrun - A think a similar argument can be made for public sector broadcasting & press. In the past, only govts could afford the start-up of such systems (like BBC) but that got 'privatised' as the market grew so powerful and the cost came down - and the private sector could out-innovate and out-fund the state (space exploration is a current example). There's 3rd model typified by Mastodon - devolved not controlled by govt or private sector in the hands of citizens....
       
 (DIR) Post #APjW4VT0RoCVJz2OQq by moparisthebest@moparisthe.best
       2022-11-18T04:47:40.716328Z
       
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       @llebrun Disagree. It's a strong case for open and federated protocols and encouraging people to run their own infrastructure for family and friends.Giant instances are the problem, regardless of who runs them.
       
 (DIR) Post #APjW4VyCZp9csjdJ3Y by llebrun@mastodon.social
       2022-11-18T04:54:33Z
       
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       @moparisthebest And yet here you are, communicating with me on an open, federated platform that is incorporated as a non-profit!
       
 (DIR) Post #APjW4WMJ8CR85UuYd6 by pulkomandy@mastodon.tetaneutral.net
       2022-11-18T07:19:29Z
       
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       @llebrun @moparisthebest a non-profit instead of a company is a step in the rigqt direction, but it is not enough. Nonprofits can run out of resources (money or people to do the work) or also be taken over or stopped in various ways (see what happened to Freenode not so long ago, or imagine what a nonprofit would do in face of legal threats).We need something more resilient than that, and federation/distribution helps with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #APkedjecgVoaFWjyQC by eloquence@social.coop
       2022-11-19T04:58:42Z
       
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       @llebrun You might be interested in the efforts to create an all-Canadian Mastodon co-operative -- see posts by @evan, @awsamuel and others involved.
       
 (DIR) Post #APkedkBEjFu1sg01Fw by ryan@rebased.io
       2022-11-19T05:17:17.847465Z
       
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       That exists already – leafposter.club Ça existe déjà : leafposter.club
       
 (DIR) Post #APkf5unCrjiYu3BzqS by evan@prodromou.pub
       2022-11-19T05:21:31Z
       
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       @ryan @eloquence @llebrun @awsamuel I see this: "Who owns Leafposter Club? Parker Banks, feel free to contact me at <...>."There are other great Canadian Mastodon sites too.But we're trying to create a cooperative so the members own it and vote on policies and processes.