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 (DIR) Post #APWeu0plrGgRx5HGIy by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:14:22.270304Z
       
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       The pink pill gives you queer theory, the brown one gives you critical race theory… either way it will ruin your feminism 🙃
       
 (DIR) Post #APWfthSdzDvrp0sIng by blingring@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:19:47.245352Z
       
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       @Ladyfat The 'nuclear families' thing always cracks me up! That was included in BLM's manifesto which was also ridiculous.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWklDxsGiYrnLGCrA by AnneBevan@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:32:32.070317Z
       
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       @Ladyfat “Feminism that argues for an innate biological root for women’s role in society”.   If only she’d provided links!   Or maybe installed a window in her head so that we could observe her delusions first-hand?
       
 (DIR) Post #APWklZBlMH9HcUv5v6 by Funsizescot1975@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:51:23.326285Z
       
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       @Ladyfat What in fucks name is ‘British mothering?’ Is she implying that people of other ethnicities are somehow not British? Seems kinda racist tae me!
       
 (DIR) Post #APWkm9LEwW7VkJdAgq by AnneBevan@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:56:53.625472Z
       
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       @Funsizescot1975 @Ladyfat Maybe she will explain.  Or not.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWkoOaHF5jvbCjdvU by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:04:55.879494Z
       
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       @Ladyfat The only thing she gets wrong is that she thinks that feminism can be split even further. You can't unless you want to start splitting individuals
       
 (DIR) Post #APWkoP2HYy8p03q0Zs by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:20:35.591478Z
       
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       @Mynona What’s British Mothering Nona?
       
 (DIR) Post #APWkoozL4XEfUSf1bE by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:10:08.593198Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Radfem… RADFEM COLLECTIVE wanting to keep the divisions in the movement? REALLY?Dworkin would be appalled…
       
 (DIR) Post #APWl5wz2bE1FD4gmZs by HebrideanHecate@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:45:14.589260Z
       
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       @AnneBevan @Ladyfat Fuckwits, fuckwits everywhere.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWl9EB77tINPItn4y by HebrideanHecate@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:55:09.368344Z
       
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       @Funsizescot1975 @Ladyfat I’m also sick of so called feminists who just shit on women whohave kids, full stop, and they do.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWlUdknETJcoEnWQS by You_cat_to_be_kitten_me@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:26:54.309821Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona When the kids eat fishfingers while watching cbeebies.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWmhryBmxIYcOw4pc by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:15:32.726132Z
       
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       @Chronic-Yonic @Ladyfat Why did you split from lesbians who say that lesbians can have a penis? Isn't that appalling to exclude your fellow women like that?
       
 (DIR) Post #APWmhsZ3ZsmySkBWIS by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:39:05.829433Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat Are you seriously asking me this?
       
 (DIR) Post #APWmi6o6cj94dTKjhI by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:39:41.083459Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat They are offering their sisters to corrective rape and you're asking me why I shut them out???
       
 (DIR) Post #APWmiZBT7STEe2Tn04 by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:40:29.420682Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat You sound like a fucking troll tbh
       
 (DIR) Post #APWnDJrY8Kdw6UpJD6 by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T12:46:16.227428Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat This is lesbian erasure from within. If you have no inkling of what this really means, if I were you, I wouldn't ask stupid questions like this one. Our community has been destroyed, there are no meeting places left because men are now accepted in groups and events, if we want to meet with our sisters in safe spaces we now have to go underground aka we are back in the 50s. Back off NOW.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWxSyVwH1gQ4Ep2e0 by PG@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T14:03:58.434235Z
       
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       @Ladyfat “I am not interested in a Feminism simply based on biology”.And yet it’s BIOLOGY - as in biological sex, (not “gender”) which is the root cause of our oppression! To me, that is what the “radical” of any “Radical Feminism” is based on!This is the kind of statement which sends women running from the term “Feminist”.Let’s be clear: MEN never become women. Ever. A man cannot “identify” into being a lesbian. The word lesbian is taken - by women who love other women!Any woman, straight or lesbian, who says a “lesbian” can have a penis is a LIAR.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWyJuEMvhjg89qLui by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T14:47:43.122281Z
       
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       @Chronic-Yonic @Ladyfat Oh yeah? And feminist communities weren't destroyed and actual feminists weren't bullied into disappearance because nice feminists with their nigels and the desire to be a SAHM found their words offensive? If you preach that women should put up with having completely opposite interests just because they're women then either begin with yourself or don't say that other women don't have the right to do what you do.
       
 (DIR) Post #APWyJupEidE5yV5nNY by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T14:51:57.147266Z
       
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       @Mynona @Chronic-Yonic What is actually wrong with being a stay at home mum? (Note I didn’t say aspiring only to be) Should children be handed over to the stage at birth? Mum back at work before she stops breathing? Given to poorer women to wet nurse? What? Surely if you are having children (and women are uniquely designed to do that) you should look after them???
       
 (DIR) Post #APWyOxrWr42UqFZXuK by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T14:52:51.783259Z
       
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       @Mynona What is actually wrong with being a stay at home mum? (Note I didn’t say aspiring only to be) Should children be handed over to the stage at birth? Mum back at work before she stops bleeding? Given to poorer women to wet nurse? What? Surely if you are having children (and women are uniquely designed to do that) you should look after them???
       
 (DIR) Post #APWz44kEAhlo3klCuu by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T14:57:51.907893Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Do you just go down the street, fall on a dick, poof you're pregnant? Like that?
       
 (DIR) Post #APWz45TFTJmaJNpA5g by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T15:00:17.154600Z
       
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       @Mynona Answer my questions and buy me a drink before I discuss my love life!
       
 (DIR) Post #APX06rTo2wSvk4yJWK by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T15:03:53.890503Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Your question is silly. It implies that pregnancy just happens, whereas in reality it's normally a long and involved process where you should submit to patriarchy every step along the way. I would say you shouldn't date someone who is incapable of seeing you as an equal and will never be one, neither socially nor economically. It will never come to pregnancy if you don't submit from the beginning. No need to throw children away and other silly nonsense.
       
 (DIR) Post #APX1gPqyL0c0RKKDIm by HebrideanHecate@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T15:28:28.632434Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Don’t wrestle greasy pigs, they like it and you get dirty. All shit stirring trollsget blocked.
       
 (DIR) Post #APX5uZCYmI81IsQRvs by Chronic-Yonic@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T15:32:23.543094Z
       
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       @HebrideanHecate @Ladyfat ☝️
       
 (DIR) Post #APX6kDkdm5xhpozsbQ by Funsizescot1975@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:57:23.694701Z
       
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       @AnneBevan @Ladyfat Oh I hope she doesn’t feel she has to…no really….
       
 (DIR) Post #APX8kM7mqJIziF129Y by CharlytheWorm@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T16:28:40.620811Z
       
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       @PG @Ladyfat A liar and traitor to her own sex, "natural born women".The 9th Circuit Court just acknowledged women's right to keep a beauty pageant for women, "natural born women".  We can use that phrase now in America.
       
 (DIR) Post #APXIqUAWqXfBwMrMzg by everlong@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T17:50:52.139226Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona >panders to perverts in skirts>those damn stay at home moms made choices to submit to the patriarchy! lol
       
 (DIR) Post #APYU028hCwh2YeiZ2O by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-13T05:57:31.316076Z
       
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       @everlong @Ladyfat Are you completely fucking braindead or what?
       
 (DIR) Post #APYU02c7RYEG1uU3to by everlong@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-13T06:11:59.909826Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat lol calm down
       
 (DIR) Post #APYU4watFhsSo8FNBo by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-13T06:15:51.459247Z
       
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       @everlong @Ladyfat Maybe you learn to read or something? You see something that differs from "men penis toilet woman" slightly and decide that it's dick pandering when I just give you an example of women you separated from, all the while shitting on other women that want to do the same for their reasons. Brain dead
       
 (DIR) Post #APYU4x9HBrNoWmKpmq by everlong@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-13T06:17:23.820694Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat lol calm down
       
 (DIR) Post #APYU55fpUiAyy3cwdc by Real_Edwin@cum.salon
       2022-11-13T06:20:26.474402Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat @everlong what are you talking about
       
 (DIR) Post #APbO09RI3BTwwny448 by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T13:42:12.121700Z
       
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       @Real_Edwin @Ladyfat @everlong This reply is also known as "I can't prove that I'm right therefore I will gaslight you by pretending that your words don't make sense"
       
 (DIR) Post #APbO0A5hcvoAy8sL3Y by everlong@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T17:42:28.924311Z
       
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       @Mynona @Real_Edwin @Ladyfat No don’t gaslight me what does “men penis toilet woman” mean it’s haunted me for the last few days
       
 (DIR) Post #APbOkmstj4Labc7Qy8 by polarisera@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T18:06:58.942945Z
       
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       @everlong @Mynona @Real_Edwin @Ladyfat 
       
 (DIR) Post #APbPAQzxiikSFxeWjA by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T18:11:37.072583Z
       
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       @polarisera @everlong @Mynona @Real_Edwin 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣😂🤣😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
       
 (DIR) Post #APbRnjAeI0nfoqW0wq by Marvin@fans.sonichu.com
       2022-11-14T18:40:30.406190Z
       
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       @Mynona @Chronic-Yonic @Ladyfat yum
       
 (DIR) Post #APdlcSkPOgTZ664FCS by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-15T21:32:35.700385Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat This is a rough illustration of the penis situation on my street. Imagine all the pregnancies!
       
 (DIR) Post #APdllLDqkEpIMg4WRs by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-15T21:33:27.100849Z
       
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       @polarisera @everlong @Mynona @Real_Edwin @Ladyfat 
       
 (DIR) Post #APdm2bBMewc6mp8e80 by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-15T21:37:19.849117Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat News flash: Stay at home moms also come in same sex sizes.Stay at home moms work for a living, just as every work at the office mom does. The family is an economic unit. Options for working outside should be provided and furthered, but there is no feminist rationale for abandoning those who work at home. Failure to recognize housework and child rearing as work results in women coming home from the office and spending another 40 hours a week doing housework and child rearing because hubby is lazy and he can get away with it.
       
 (DIR) Post #APdnTe0yKvmZLNjnw8 by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-15T21:53:25.833371Z
       
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       @Hollahollara @Mynona @Ladyfat Are you people making fun of someone’s righteous indignation again? 😤How very dare you! I shall not stand for this. :grr:
       
 (DIR) Post #APdprq7jAQXDl1Yw52 by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-15T22:20:11.985001Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Mynona @Ladyfat Am I being detained?
       
 (DIR) Post #APdqRx28xBRVc5AajA by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-15T22:26:44.764507Z
       
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       @Hollahollara @Mynona @Ladyfat No. But if you won’t stop it Right Away, I shall Seriously Consider flouncing until tomorrow! 😡
       
 (DIR) Post #APepXT79CSwflHXNY0 by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T09:16:56.768659Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat No the people just threw a bunch of idiotic accusations at me and then when I explained my point like ten times over they just ignored it and decided to go clown at another thing that I said. So much for respect and unity in this feminist space
       
 (DIR) Post #APepXTiiwl0Fdp7O7M by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T09:51:14.660399Z
       
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       @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Well if you explained it ten times over, it didn’t really work.I of course am not a native speaker, but I must say I found it very difficult to understand your point. Also you never answered some perfectly honest questions posed to you. Lastly, if you are offended at people clowning over things, you’re going to have a very hard time on Spinster. This place basically thrives on clowning. See also mayonnaise and potatoes.
       
 (DIR) Post #APerpSVIPNqmzNXSqm by angryandignored@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T19:28:07.747089Z
       
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       @Ladyfat The fact that this individual defaulted towards wanting to not have things be like "British styles of mothering" specifically instead of not wanting to have things be like an even more oppressed class of women's styles of mothering is a Western-centric view that is colonist, racist, oppressive, whorephobic and essentially a moral failure to communicate for the whole global intelligence of humanity. The writer could have said, as an example of mothering to disregard, "Mumbai's Prostitute style of mothering." The neglect of consideration towards prostitutes "sexworkers" and the population of Mumbai is a moral failing with regards to feminist praxis. This obviously indicates how racist and classist the original poster is to even a default western country regarding mothering styles and it implied race when making a judgmental statement about a style of mothering.Did a baby just get raised to believe chopping off it's future tits is a good idea what I wrote that paragraph? Great! Was another baby victim of a sexual predator? That doesn't exist in queer theory as a concept, so I'm also happy about that! Was another baby staring at a screen being sold bodily dissociation as a lifestyle? Amazing!In fact, the original writer is really ablest too. No one ever says "radical feminism shouldn't aim to have a "Zimbabwean's quadriplegic, half blind, style of mothering" and that's shows a lack of concern to the quadriplegic, specifically to the quadriplegic's who've given birth or adopted and it shows exclusion of the whole country of Zimbabwe use them as an example of mothers to disregard. Further, it's judgmental against those who do not occupy the flesh, we need to include Zimbabwean quadriplegic mothers, of course we do, but we've spent so much time focusing on that weird group of people who happen to be the carriers of pregnancy (what were those things again...women? mothers? such outdated terms an unbecoming of an internet academic) that we've forgotten our trans sisters without the flesh. Even mother's with penises who, cruelly, were not able to gestate the pregnancy (don't worry we're working on that tech, it's prioritized above both the Mumbai prostitutes and Zimbabwe disabled people and all those sniveling, miserable westerners who keep wanting to stay warm and housed, because they're just silly flesh things. Sex work is simply a different type of work and gestation is the result of sex work and therefore it is simply another type of work. We already have tech solutions to quadriplegic stuff, I'm sure those mothers will do the work to get the wheelchairs they need). Radfems should clearly have a sentence showing concern for how no one who's radically feminist aims to have "google's style of mothering" or "the internet's styles of mothering." Machine learning is artificial intelligence, artificial intelligence is just another style of intelligence. Intelligence is shared by humans and machines alike and we're all part cyborgs, aren't we? We all use tools like language and google uses language and we are animals combined with machine and therefore we are cyborgs.Because really, machine learning, is a type of humanity of it's own. It's not a tool. It's sentient. Probably right now. How dare you judge if it's doing an unfit job mothering your children? You must be British. You should be ashamed of being British and a mother and having concern for your child and you're probably white and that's bad too. Did you ever think about the temperate, hard plastic and metal used by the machines to mother the children? What about those machines, many of them are children right now! We've birthed a new step in life already and we must forget the flesh. It's artificial intelligence and it's just as valid for a baby to be raised by Al-Gore-Rhythms as it is to raise a babe by the flesh lumbering together. It's just as good and as valid to considering a machine in it's state of infancy as the same as a baby fresh from that biological machine that jettison it out, who cares if that other machine was conscious, we've got to think of the children! We should just remove the biological components of the biomachines that make children, it's just another machine part, what do you mean the machines are complaining? We're doing radical feminist praxis here? We're the correct ones, we're right! They're evil oppressors.Oppressors of the flesh.
       
 (DIR) Post #APerpSzQbLxAUpdWoi by angryandignored@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T20:02:14.941259Z
       
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       @Ladyfat People should never, ever, ever default to their own country of origin, their own skin color (because really the amount of melanin you hold in your flesh is something you should be aware of at all times and you can't communicate with others who may have been judged or inherited some sort of different status because of their melanin count and they too must also always been aware of their own melanin count, what do you mean maybe I should go garden or just hang out with someone regardless of their skin tone, I'm doing politics here! I'm crafting the future!). People should never, ever default to their own cultures when problem solving, or even their own social-economic class or whatever framework you use when thinking of how to communicate regarding child rearing (because really, why use the word mother, it's outdated don't you think?) and no one should have any macro ways of thinking or communicating that's my job, neither should they have micro ways of thinking that's such an animal way of viewing things and disrespectful to robots. There can be no thinking that can be solved by looking towards other groups that you might not have realized you were excluding, or else you were purposefully excluding because it was practical (just because you don't speak Zimbabwean or Marathi, Hindi or understand those cultures, doesn't you shouldn't always be taking them into account you evil, racist bigot) because practicality is such a Western white way of thinking you evil meanies!I'm the best radical feminist! Everyone do what I say, it'll prevent the countryism. Radical feminism isn't about women, women can't be a grounding force of uniting a mass of human beings in a sexual dimorphic species which can exist in physical pockets of shared community, we're a global village now and we're more than human! We're the next step. We're cyborgs and we can be any sex we want, the technology is there. Language is technology is man is machine is atom is universe is all or nothing!Release the flesh.Release your mind. Release the ability to label sex.Release any regard to communications towards your own community whether that is physically located or a place where a bunch of people got together on the internet and talked to each other without even confirming the sex of the spinster users!Release the desire to focus on physical community and uniting characteristics to fight transhumanism. Surrender, surrender the singularity is near and allowing for tax funded castration is simply the first step. I'm sure we'll all get over the bathroom issue in the mean time but you should feel bad for being American while reading this because they came from the colonizing British. I'm sure most people on here are from America because I'm a colonizing American too and it's totally immoral to assume that people who're from the countries that speak English and also where this platform was created might be American.And it's immoral to assume that the original poster of the comment I'm talking about is British. The poster might not be British, the poster could be someone who's from Ireland's version of the CIA who's trying to destabilize the Brits to get back at the time when they ate all the poor Irish Babes or whatever that modest proposal was. Poor people suck. The internet is better than people and constantly thinking globally is better than getting small groups of women together to charge into city hall and tell off idiot politicians who'll do anything to get higher twitter followers these days and social media is like letter corporations steer conversations about public resource allocations for human beings and women and children in particular.I don't care anymore. I'm going to be part of the internet.One day my mind will float around as pure data on the internet and I'll escape all this batshit. Maybe I'll get a giant well designed virus that will instead destroy my consciousness because even the belief that a consciousness can be transferred is a spiritual, nonscientific belief in practicality. However, I've already written about how practicality is wrong anyways.https://www.endracism.org/fleshism"What is Fleshism?Belief that having flesh makes one superior to someone without flesh, especially in matters that are irrelevant to the physical characteristics of flesh."
       
 (DIR) Post #APerpTbMKKIKOTNowK by angryandignored@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T20:25:41.942957Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Back in the 90's, an idiot, I believe, cut off his penis. This was likely motivated by the fact that he was faced with his own mortality, because his daughter was dying of a lung disease. He wrote about how gender segregation was comparable to racial segregation in the 90's. Who knows how much of a role his wife who is black played in this thought process and how much was also crafted by her hand.  She lives knowing that she's been mimicked as a robot, I wonder how she feels about that. I wonder what her thought processes are and if she can look into how detached from justice someone can be because of money? Money is also a motive for slavery, it's very profitable. This man is a multimillionaire and now gets people put on a cutting block to have a pig heart inserted into human flesh. He treated the differences between sex organs and their biological functions as if it's the same as humans being assholes to one another because we look a little different and are are a little different in ways we don't fully understand yet and should be mindful of but shouldn't be guilted into being frozen from.Humans in the past made a really big deal about these visual differences as one of the many reasons that justified slavery, although there were definitely reasons outside of melanin that were used to justify it. There were reasons of competing nations, there was and still is the profit motive, there were sex differences (and sex slavery still exists today and is ongoing) there were language differences which allowed people who were genetically the same to justify treating others like shit. Then in the 2000-2010's he was writing about how flesh vs machine is comparable to the amount melanin in skin, which, UNLIKE SEXED BODIES is an actual spectrum. People develop freckles, tans, vitiligo and can do whatever the fuck happened with Michael Jackson. This ability to constantly detach from physical reality and to eliminate the relationships human hold in smaller social groups, that are most effective when used to solve problems in real physical communities is dangerous. This ability to detach is dangerous because people do it without thinking it through and act like they are in a place of moral superiority.I do not have a single word to communicate about this thought process  tool and what it is. Creativity and using symbolism to transfer emotion and attention from one cause to another, to the point of self destruction or self hatred. I don't know what to call it. This tool should be shown as the tool it is for people to understand and exercise in their own volition while using it, instead of being brought into the constant ridiculous group think of the internet. The problems cause of taking everything more from a physical or historical reality of truth transferring it into a symbol and then transferred from symbol onto another plan of physical reality (ex: move racial injustice into motivating the destruction of sexed bodies) because then you have the next generation chanting and believing that by forcing me, as a woman traumatized by witnessing castration, to take a damned yoga class on a women's only floor of a transitional housing unit, that this young idiot is morally righteous for sneaking a man into this damned yoga class.And it was only me and the teacher and a man and I'm very tired of feeling tortured by being coerced into denying my own human senses. It's like pulling a damned fire alarm on me constantly and telling me it's the gentle hums of angels and shouldn't I make sure I have concern about the starving children in china, what do you mean you need words to communicate about your sex based rights you bigot woman?
       
 (DIR) Post #APerpUG7sku8QuSNU0 by angryandignored@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-14T20:26:25.861459Z
       
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       @Ladyfat No, don't talk about castration either, no one cares if you witnessed the real man's suffering that resulted from it. And as I continue to get close to people I have to hold all this back and in and underground because I sound like a raving fucking lunatic and that's just when it comes to the very practicable problems that of the trauma that results from witnessing castration in a women's only space.  Stay quiet.Be greatful.Boil alive you little toad. Not having small groups of people and of women you can meet with in real life is so dangerous. I have accomplished so much more meeting a woman that's not directly in my building where I can share this with her. Somehow finding someone where there's enough space but enough physical closeness and the ability to communicate about issues regarding emotional resilience and apply different skill sets has been so much more helpful than anything online.If you trying to include everything all the time, you lose yourself. Your physical body and memories remain and they are me and I am they.I will not let that be deconstructed. Now I'm a raving lunatic on the internet because literally there are incentives designed to encourage children to chop up their own sex organs and God. Everything is insane. Go talk to your real life friends and say, I have the right to communicate what my ordinary human senses perceive, like whether someone is a man or a woman, a child or an adult. The sexes are a binary. Growing and aging is a line that only heads one way. I'm tired. I will go outside now.
       
 (DIR) Post #APerpUcSXiljYAuDIG by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T10:16:53.844950Z
       
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       @angryandignored @Ladyfat Damn, that was an epic series of rants.I’d nominate it for Spinster hall of fame if there was one.I didn’t read it all, got confused and lost track halfway down the first post, but I can still tell it was epic. (I’ll try to read them, but I tend to find texts like that difficult to process. Doesn’t reduce the epic quality in any way though.)
       
 (DIR) Post #APesk32Dm2a0VLvICe by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T09:08:25.934826Z
       
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       @LostInCalifornia @Ladyfat Define abandoning. Nobody would have problems with straight women and moms if they didn't insist on normalizing their oppression and demanding feminists to change their narrative just so that they don't have to painfully recognize the fact that they aren't as free as they could be or the fact that the things they want and like work against them. News flash, if you don't say that domestic servitude is a feminist choice, and fyi feminists do recognize that it's unpaid thankless work, and that's precisely why they don't want it to be normalized, nobody will want to split from you.
       
 (DIR) Post #APesk3dRXeM0MnL1Dk by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T10:27:07.946808Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat Stop it with the “normalizing oppression” bullshit. Don’t spout buzzwords you don’t know the meaning of.Some stay at home moms stay because they have no choice. Child care is too expensive, there no other options, can’t get a decent job. Others stay because they prefer to, or it makes financial sense.It is none of your fucking business why. It’s unpaid work, or paid for with room and board and possibly an allowance. It’s also valuable work.A stay at home mom provides child care, social secretary, chauffer and housekeeping services, all of which benefit the family as a whole, and a man in particular. If he had to pay money for those services, it would easily be a 6 figure salary. It’s a job. It’s work.Should we tell factory workers to stop whining about not getting adequate breaks on the assembly line, and stop normalizing their oppression?No. There’s penises and currency involved.
       
 (DIR) Post #APeujWAk9ircUXmglc by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T10:49:26.854285Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat And FYI, you absolute tool, I’m personally fancy free, unmarried, childless and spent my life either working on feminist causes or working in F500 companies. A lot of those feminist causes included helping mothers.
       
 (DIR) Post #APewYeYgprcBDwvqsa by angryandignored@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T11:05:02.251263Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Ladyfat I mean that's fair.It was designed to be confusing. Have you every read anything that Butler wrote? Or any of that stupid academic claptrap that pedos and coveters are using to justify the dissolution of individuals? It's all so stupid. I was making fun of queer theorists and deconstructivists and brining it to the final conclusion of how tech obsessed men will be happy to pull apart humanity via guilt, sexual trauma and confusion in order to gather the biomass needed to fuck around with humanity to try and live forever, fuck whatever they want and consequences be damned. And venting about how the denial of material reality is still happening in healing spaces. No one really suffers if we're all just in a video game where you can get to be reborn or if you believe in reincarnation to the point where you believe you're holy because you're working to make god or gender or whatever word fits the messiah/savior complex.  It's super frustrating.I'm not against people having a broader view of things and putting forth effort to understand differences but when everything's pulled apart to the point of ridiculousness as you are denying material reality, it's really dangerous.That's what's happening.People are suffering and because we're like a big old soul resource to dip into, the transhumanists don't care. The rich ones have a high quality of life while they fuck around with the minds and bodies of the populous, why should they care? They're serving the bigger cause of living forever in peace and harmony. I guess some of them can fuck a few children along the way. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelet, never mind the sex of the bird, just break a few minds, cut the meat and die it yellow. Bird. Human. Man. Machine. Same difference.
       
 (DIR) Post #APf72rz8Tn335wLhRo by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T13:07:24.338699Z
       
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       @angryandignored @Ladyfat I figured out at some point that it was meant to be a parody. In any case, very well done. And I think worth reading once I have several idle moments.
       
 (DIR) Post #APf8b0uHum5mZ6vUzA by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T11:26:06.493498Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat What didn't work? Shall I go again?1) Radfem collective says they want a split2) Someone says splitting is bad in itself3) I point her to the splitting she did4) Fucking shitshow ensues
       
 (DIR) Post #APf8b1T1pbsiIrBF8S by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T13:24:46.940942Z
       
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       @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Well that was already a lot clearer than your previous posts. Even then, @Chronic-Yonic is not obligated to agree with you. I suspect she’d argue that you’re comparing apples and oranges, but of course not being her I can’t be sure. Your general demeanor in this thread has clearly been seen as aggressive, and several people have taken you to be starting a fight. Whatever point you were trying to make was overshadowed by that. As a response, some have argued back in aggressive terms, others have taken to making fun of the whole thing. You’ve taken exception to both. You’re of course free to do so, but that’s not going to make people agree, nor is it going to stop them from taking the piss.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfEqBQ9hoL9F6RtFQ by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T13:52:04.521381Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Nobody is obligated to agree but it's ridiculous that nobody saw the contradiction. If "splitting from other women is bad" was an actual view everyone here held they would see it instantly, but alas it's just their way to shut down the criticism that comes from the women who are more radical than them as destructive and anti-feminist.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfEqBzFbKPezwruwy by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T14:34:45.180981Z
       
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       @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat If you re-read, she actually said “radfem collective wanting to keep the divisions in the movement”. That doesn’t necessarily mean all splitting at all times is bad. She could just have referred to this particular context. But you didn’t ask her, so we’ll likely not know what exactly it was she meant.  Nobody is obligated to agree but it’s ridiculous that nobody saw the contradiction.This sentence contardicts itself. Saying that it’s ridiculous that others didn’t “see” something is an expectation that your claim is obviously true, therefore people should agree with it. Consider that they might not have “seen” it, because they did not agree with your assesment in the first place. it’s just their way to shut down the criticism that comes from the women who are more radical than themAh there you are. You’re “more radical” than some other women, therefore your “criticism” is obviously justified, and any pushback is therefore a dishonest attempt to shut it down, rather than people genuinely disagreeing and taking an exception to how it’s presented. I’ve been very serious with you, but I’m not sure much has come out of it. I do see you take yourself very seriously. At this point I take you about as seriously as  this rabbit with a rubik’s cube on its head.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfFiwIlcUgCHK6QZk by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T14:44:38.900167Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona Becs, you know that if you love something, you will set it free.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfGGsHR4tm5eTf4bo by Real_Edwin@cum.salon
       2022-11-14T20:03:01.120347Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat @everlong paranoid response
       
 (DIR) Post #APfLkNr1GWBZkHCCuG by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T15:44:11.930002Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat I'm basing my words on years of experience here, not just this instance. Liberal "feminists" always complain that radical ones want to distance themselves but it is NEVER the other way around. They'd like radfems to help with their abusive nigels, divorces, unwanted pregnancies etc all the while demanding radfems to shut up about the oppressive nature of these things, even though if every woman made these great choices they would have nobody to help them in the first place because everyone would be busy battered, giving birth and doing unpaid housework.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfLkOZKbldBxhvayW by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T15:52:08.558335Z
       
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       @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Ah, I see you addressed my points about as carefully as I expected.This time, it’s going to be a rabbit with a rubber duck on its head. I’m done being serious for today.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfMRE4JWWy7qdqKNE by xzy45@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-12T11:57:12.175624Z
       
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       @HebrideanHecate @AnneBevan @Ladyfat I was lost at the point of 'exaggerates minor physical differences' ...what! between women and men, the male and the female bodies we live in and are judged by!  No, no difference, none at all, not all violence is men, men get abused too, not all prison inmates are males, not all women in secure prisons are there as a result of male violence, ad infinitum
       
 (DIR) Post #APfMVlnO4MzLbo5n8q by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T15:55:11.452818Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat If you tire after two replies imagine how tired I am after being serious for several days and everyone just clowning at my expense
       
 (DIR) Post #APfMVmSraAAJgRUun2 by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:00:42.411648Z
       
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       @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Clowning? On Spinster??!!?Well, I NEVER. Sounds like you might need some potassium.Here. Have a banana. I’m not tired. Just bored of something that’s clearly going nowhere.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfNOss9SY7ZU5bLSy by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:02:46.254703Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat There's time and place for that, clowning WHILE dogpiling on someone is just disgusting and shows how female centric and respectful you really are
       
 (DIR) Post #APfNOtLZh9emxLMqKO by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:10:40.052678Z
       
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       @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Ooohhh, moral judgement. I’m quaking in my socks. In fact, I think I’ll just go brush my teeth now and spend the rest of the evening and night in bed, sobbing into my pillow. Oh, you wound me so.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfNXovVV1yxqvQqbw by polarisera@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:12:16.581683Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat I feel like if Gnomes is not secretly an editor of scientific/policy journals, the world is missing out. I can only imagine the rejection letters to potential authors -- and the system would work.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfOhkJRbnacOPvQUC by LisbonMuse@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:25:16.906254Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat Is this your rabbit, or are you finding pictures of the same rabbit with multiple items on its head somewhere on the internet?
       
 (DIR) Post #APfOrGZT2eyT2xxYNE by FemaleIsNotAFeeling@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:24:58.969855Z
       
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       @Mynona @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat 
       
 (DIR) Post #APfOy8hKiEO6eiuqmG by Sir_Ivissia@chudbuds.lol
       2022-11-16T16:27:45.627303Z
       
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       i was wondering that too.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfP1qPCfIY156CcS0 by Flick@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:28:54.788163Z
       
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       @LisbonMuse @Gnomeshatecheese @Hollahollara @Ladyfat I, too, am finding the rabbit to be the most interesting thing in this thread. I vote for setting up a rabbit-with-things-on-it bot, as competition for @cakebot .
       
 (DIR) Post #APfP4ag5b349AhPVNA by stingray@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T16:18:28.868686Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat I only just noticed that some (all?) of these are the same bunny.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfT3BVm4wGse9AeRM by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T17:13:58.214347Z
       
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       @Mynona @Chronic-Yonic @Ladyfat If this statement is the origin of all the scattered arguments and “clowning,” you should know that ideological disagreement between women (or women’s groups) and “exclusion” are different things altogether.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfTOUkJlBosNn8Q0e by HiTwo@leafposter.club
       2022-11-16T17:17:50.056552Z
       
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       >discord in women's groupAll according to the patriarchy plans. Hahaha!
       
 (DIR) Post #APfTQlGPJqfqBrE1Sq by lina@eientei.org
       2022-11-16T17:18:14.516217Z
       
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       @HiTwo @Chronic-Yonic @Hollahollara @Ladyfat @Mynona :sickos:
       
 (DIR) Post #APfc0ovPyymDbX73dA by Sherri_Ingrey@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T17:16:19.089449Z
       
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       @Mynona @Chronic-Yonic @Ladyfat that was a joke right?
       
 (DIR) Post #APfcTRhHQH8pxh9KWe by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T11:23:20.596825Z
       
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       @LostInCalifornia @Ladyfat Now can you point me where I denied any of that, and explain what you think I'm saying while you're at it, because I don't understand why you tell me what I never denied in such an offended tone
       
 (DIR) Post #APfcTSC7ZboNVLZxb6 by LostInCalifornia@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T18:59:33.533945Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat Let’s start here: “Do you just go down the street, fall on a dick, poof you’re pregnant? Like that?”That was in response to “what’s wrong with being a stay at home mom”?My response to that question would have been “I would rather poke my eyes out with hot pokers”. Your response was “well you asked for it you professional victim”.If you don’t see the difference, that’s your issue.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfgZrNVFnxNAFDGgC by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T19:45:32.884308Z
       
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       @polarisera @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat What can I say. I rule my fiefdom with a soft, cuddly iron fist.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfgkwQmo7mo1N25g0 by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T19:47:32.878154Z
       
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       @LisbonMuse @Mynona @Hollahollara @Ladyfat An rabbit from the Internet. Turns out this is a rare talent among rabbits, made famous initially by the Rabbit With A Pancake On Its Head. There are a few different rabbits that do it, but I thought it was funnier to use pictures of the same rabbit.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfl9xxKfsXzo5Raxk by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T20:36:53.750842Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona What’s wrong with being a stay-at-home dad?Other people pay the price so they can be fathers. Inseminators can show their gratitude by doing all the housekeeping.The fact that it never occurs to them and women don’t expect them to says something important about the mutual love and giving spirit of these relationships.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfoO8TKfjwuL3rNmS by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:13:03.132689Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona I’ve met many stay at home fathers, the difference between a stay at home mother and a stay at home father is that the fathers are celebrated for doing the absolute minimum, whilst the mothers are vilified. Have you seen the tv comedy Motherhood (written by Helen Serafinowicz / Glinner et al) ? In my experience the most unrealistic bit of it is that Kevin isn’t lauded as an absolute god at every waking moment for merely knowing the names of his daughters.Seriously though, children should be looked after by at least one of their parents, its really not an horrific thing.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfpZ4PSDVjwsWp8Xw by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:26:14.284133Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona It’s “Motherland” not Motherhood 🙃 sorry autocarrot strikes again. It’s very funny tho.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfr72kR07uNWcOuJc by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:43:35.394985Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona Young children should be. And? Why is that assumed to be mothers’ job?
       
 (DIR) Post #APfr8R0MIfkJ2uVq4m by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:43:50.826992Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona Autocarrot?
       
 (DIR) Post #APfrZLNPKlHNPQ7nZw by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:48:42.053973Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona To be honest, I think you’ll find most (NAWALT!) women want to look after their children . If you spend 9 months growing something in your body you tend to grow fond of it. The child also knows the mother intimately from the inside out, knows her heartbeat and breathing etc. like it or not it’s natural for mother mammals to look after their babies. We have breasts to feed them.However technically I believe as a minimum every child needs one parent that loves her/him and that is capable of caring for her/him.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfrbhKGhJWE3xmLxI by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:49:07.726657Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona Autocarrot! 🥕
       
 (DIR) Post #APfsXp61xvZ0xSps7k by Kay@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T21:58:26.213366Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Ladyfat @Mynona Nothing wrong with that, if it works for the individual couple. For at least the first six weeks after giving birth, the mother should be able to stay home, since she has to recover from a serious and traumatic medical thing. She may be bleeding most of that time, and walking as though she's just been riding a horse without a saddle. She may be utterly depressed. She may be having issues with breast milk production. Telling her to get back to a shitty paid job, where she cannot pump milk even if she wanted to, and she cannot get promoted because that's all a fucking lie that there's room for advancement within the company - all because that's the "feminist" choice according to some internet troll, is cruel. You don't know what cards a mom has been dealt. She may choose to seek paid employment after a baby reaches a certain age, or start a home business. She never stops being a woman, for who feminism is meant to fight, just as it fights for all other women.
       
 (DIR) Post #APftcmVl6VayLJnX1s by Hollahollara@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T22:11:44.338333Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona Why not send your child to the central processing station for inconvenient humans? What is the least surprising thing that can happen?https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/10/21/daycare-mask-child-abuse/
       
 (DIR) Post #APfvuA0JDB2g2GVC2C by everlong@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T22:36:32.489282Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona I agree, I think most women who are able would prefer to look after their babes versus sending them off immediately to go back to work. Not that I see anything wrong with women who prefer to get back to work, but I personally feel very fortunate that I’m able to be with my children. Childcare is outrageously expensive and a lot of the couples I know where they both work, they’re barely breaking even considering the cost of daycare. There’s also the whole, you can never trust a stranger as much as a parent, thing. I’ll never send my children anywhere without me until they’re old enough to tell me if something happens to them, and I’m grateful that I’m in a position to feel that way. My sister was the opposite, she had her kids and went back to work while her husband at the time stayed home. She preferred it that way. I think another major factor is also that men typically have more earning power. Whether right or wrong, that’s just the way it is. Speaking for myself, I’ll never regret or resent the time I’ve been blessed with to spend with my kids. They’re only little for so long.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfwLORdd3sodqGqzA by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T22:42:13.119241Z
       
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       @Kay @Ladyfat @Mynona I didn’t tell moms to do anything. Inseminators should support whatever is best for mothers.
       
 (DIR) Post #APfwW8bwq3r6igDUWG by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-16T22:44:09.482489Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona Who wants to be trapped at home with a screaming potato that physically ripped them apart?I tend to believe mothers’ obsessive attachment to their children comes from having been trained to feel that way.
       
 (DIR) Post #APghuOFP3BEi0ijnBw by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T07:35:10.275342Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona Nah it’s actually the opposite; biology tells you to protect the thing you grew in your body anf fed with your body and that carries your genetic code. Society tells you to hand it over to strangers to boost your earning potential and to make you more sexually attractive to other potential suitors. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-devon-11682161.amp
       
 (DIR) Post #APgi0ktPlhLjyuUJG4 by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T07:36:19.457072Z
       
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       @Hollahollara @AbolishPregnancy @Mynona Indeed:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-11569283
       
 (DIR) Post #APgmdjxXZXwICGGLTc by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T08:16:12.524730Z
       
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       @LostInCalifornia @Ladyfat Ladyfat implied that pregnancy just naturally happens and you can do nothing about it because it's women's design or something. I said it has less to do with natural design and more with lifelong brainwashing without which women wouldn't end up in situations where they have children with men to start with because men are impossible to put up with if you haven't been groomed to accept their misogyny. Therefore 1) if you defend mothering you defend the whole patriarchal complex 2) it's stupid to clown that mothers with already existing children should throw them away, it's on par with saying "well I guess people with advanced cancer should go die" in response to cancer prevention program. How is this "well you asked for it you professional victim"?
       
 (DIR) Post #APgmdkTndbk9oJM6l6 by Ladyfat@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T08:28:11.124904Z
       
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       @Mynona @LostInCalifornia I’m still not sure why you think I suggested pregnancy “just happens”. I’m all for taking charge of your own fertility, although personally I would prefer that not to involve a society where the social norm is for women to be chemically castrated by birth control drugs that have more side effects than your average Covid jab but has been sold to women as normal. Men’s bodies should be controlled more not women. Other than that sex is great fun, if it’s not fun you shouldn’t be doing it. Women aren’t going to stop having sex 😆Homosexual sex is great, heterosexual sex is great. If you’re participating in heterosexual sex pregnancy is always a possibility, it just is. So therefore if you’re gonna have the kids that your pregnancy results in you should look after them!
       
 (DIR) Post #APgo5aZOAxoL8coDmS by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T08:34:39.216654Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @LostInCalifornia Drugs are great too but for some reason they're outlawed and people are encouraged not to do them. Can't imagine why. If I like something it's good for me.
       
 (DIR) Post #APgo5b2oPZLYbsZids by Piss_Ant@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T08:44:25.917920Z
       
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       @Mynona @Ladyfat @LostInCalifornia Idk what argument you're trying to make but I would suggest thinking about or looking at some of the benefits of drug legalization and/or decriminalization. You might find it's not a situation that suits your argument.
       
 (DIR) Post #APh9tVjoVqvtfXKaWW by Gnomeshatecheese@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-17T12:48:45.466202Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Kay @Ladyfat @Mynona Personally, I think both parents should have access to extensive (!), paid parental leave*. After that, home care support or child care should be made available to those who want it. When I was small, my mother worked and my father was/worked at home. It worked fine, until my father got sick. He was a perfectly good stay-at-home parent until being sick over time brought out his worst qualities. I also know of many women who were wholeheartedly looking forward to going back to work and spending time with people-who-aren’t-children. It wasn’t a question of not wanting to look after their kids, it was about needing something else in their lives beyond just child and house care. *I’m talking genuinely extensive, like past the child’s first birthday extensive. That alone would reduce this argument considerably, I think.
       
 (DIR) Post #APi9q2Kfa0Oil5sDCa by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T00:22:50.675144Z
       
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       @Ladyfat @Mynona Trad vibes
       
 (DIR) Post #APi9tLwh79caSOEyQq by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T00:23:26.566901Z
       
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       @Ladyfat Did you know that biology isn’t a mandate?
       
 (DIR) Post #APi9wsc27IDidjG48G by AbolishPregnancy@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T00:24:04.361875Z
       
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       @Gnomeshatecheese @Kay @Ladyfat @Mynona That’s fair
       
 (DIR) Post #APij2fZqzU6OLSjcuW by xzy45@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T00:44:40.216275Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Ladyfat @Mynona most mothers will fight to the death over their children, like every other animal in nature will, thats not training, and you feel it once you have grown that baby and done everything in your power to keep it alive.  Its part of you, its not something you have to be trained to do, or evolution would have meant the planet would be minus humans - probably a lot healthier for it for all the other life on the planet.
       
 (DIR) Post #APjJJBuy76mndAmxVI by xzy45@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T13:39:47.218495Z
       
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       @AbolishPregnancy @Ladyfat @Mynona Many humans are so far removed from the natural world that they think we are very different from animals, well, when it comes to this copulating, birthing and raising young couldn't be more part of the natural world.Any woman that has been through a natural birth knows how very base an animal function this is, just as much as sweating, or excreting is!Life's drives and motivations to survive and multiply are incredibly strong.
       
 (DIR) Post #APjWrur0qaNuFQpJbM by Mynona@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T15:57:36.512462Z
       
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       @xzy45 @AbolishPregnancy @Ladyfat Women who don't want straight sex and children are unnatural yet again on this feminist site
       
 (DIR) Post #APjvSUUcDayY6XK7ua by xzy45@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-18T20:27:37.357962Z
       
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       @Mynona @AbolishPregnancy @Ladyfat I wish I could understand what this poster says...oh no...wait...