Post APWreg5K1HXkeyZMrg by hynek@mastodon.social
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(DIR) Post #APWreayP1a2Oo4IGsy by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T12:13:12Z
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This is a QT (although I suspect only those on qoto server will see it as such?@hynek
(DIR) Post #APWrebbOgbEIl0XPfM by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T12:28:39Z
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@s_gruppetta is that based on some metadata? Because I don’t even see a link to a toot. What I meant is simply rendering the linked toot just like QTs started out on Twitter
(DIR) Post #APWrecL7wZoF2pvvwe by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T12:40:25Z
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@hynek this is what some servers will see for that my last toot
(DIR) Post #APWrecoCCV3sUzX9Fo by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T12:15:11Z
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@hynek suspicion correct. This is an issue - same with markdown which I can use here but most servers will strip out. As a poster you cannot guarantee how your post will be viewed across the network. But I guess that’s just the way it is
(DIR) Post #APWrecsRwgSqiBWXsu by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T12:43:50Z
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@hynek And that’s the issue, different people see different things.Same with markdown, for example this below is a code block that some servers will see properly rendered, but you’re likely to see just plain textprint("This is a code block")and this is in bold here
(DIR) Post #APWredSxkvfgXQbhnU by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T12:46:46Z
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@s_gruppetta does it strip markdown or does it strip HTML? Like is *this* word surrounded by asterisks?
(DIR) Post #APWredtYA4wFrt2wEq by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T12:50:43Z
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@hynek so for the toot above, I wrote using back ticks and ** but I suspect you saw neither
(DIR) Post #APWreeKUXuUPDReSES by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T12:53:31Z
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@s_gruppetta I saw neither but I see the asterisks in https://mastodon.social/@hynek/109330904292692980 so I wonder what exactly gets stripped there. Naively I would assume that markdown-aware servers somehow render the markdown to HTML spans that get stripped on federation but of course I don’t know.
(DIR) Post #APWreeht8vCkO0b8hU by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:08:31Z
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@hynek if I use plain text mode the symbols stay there but they’re rendered plain text for everyone. If I switch to markdown mode (a feature on qoto), then qoto users see it properly rendered but others see plain text with the markdown symbols stripped out
(DIR) Post #APWref8TY4TJiT2N8q by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:16:01Z
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@s_gruppetta It would be interesting to see all that on the wire – I’m afraid I’ve found a rabbit hole 😳 Out of curiosity: the asterisks in my toot did not render in markdown, did they?
(DIR) Post #APWrefcbk2ZhDv8R6m by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:26:17Z
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@hynek no, I can see the asterisk as plain text
(DIR) Post #APWreg5K1HXkeyZMrg by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:27:12Z
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@s_gruppetta there you go; this ain’t about markdown.
(DIR) Post #APWregXKL9we3pfjW4 by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:28:48Z
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@hynek and my earlier toot renders like this on my server
(DIR) Post #APWreh3aPDkVfslUnY by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:31:22Z
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@s_gruppetta yeah because it makes the formatting part of the payload. I have just scrolled thru other people’s TLs and they also have unrendered markdown. Qoto et al are somehow interpreting markdown and that interpretation is stripped on federation to instances that don’t support it. Maybe @andrew could give more insight I remember him talking about something similar recently
(DIR) Post #APWrehbcMgyHNQgfqK by s_gruppetta@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:32:37Z
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@hynek @andrew and the person who implemented this on qoto is @freemo so tagging in
(DIR) Post #APWrei7WS4UYyNc9ZY by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:37:06Z
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@s_gruppettaSo just to clarify, for quotes you should see the link if your server doesnt support it.For markdown you will see plain text if your server doesnt support it.Gargron, the mainn dev of vanilla mastodon, is highly opinionated. He explicitly strips formatting from the markdown when it is received. He used to let the quote link stay and should be displayed but if not he might have went out of his way to strip that out too… why he keeps making it hard for people running his server to interact with others I have no idea.But yea, sadly it seems gargron has intentionally worked to block features from other servers rendering locally even when they otherwise would have rendered.@hynek @andrew
(DIR) Post #APWrsORMQ0E9zTPyE4 by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:39:39Z
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@s_gruppetta @freemo @andrew I do not. Neither in the official client nor on Metatext
(DIR) Post #APWs20jNQMltLwQm3M by freemo@qoto.org
2022-11-12T13:41:25Z
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@hynek What about from the web app/gui itself?@s_gruppetta @andrew
(DIR) Post #APWsq0CFgWEyAum5oG by hynek@mastodon.social
2022-11-12T13:50:24Z
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@freemo @andrew @s_gruppetta nope