Post APWDyc0Ku6Snd7BiSG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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(DIR) Post #APQqUK4Pd4K73zPiWe by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-09T13:56:03Z
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Just a reminder about Mastodon.Try not to directly upload videos here.You have to remember that these videos have to be stored on the server that you're hosted on.This would also eat up on available bandwidth, storage and memory resources of said servers and slow them down. Which would force server hosts to upgrade at a substantial cost.Suggested idea...Upload to YouTube, Vimeo or other video streaming services and share the link to the video here instead.
(DIR) Post #APQqUKXprfrKXFBDO4 by captain@pirateradio.social
2022-11-09T15:55:54.433232Z
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@layeredstrange Upload to Peertube. Have you all not heard of peertube yet? It's fediverse-enabled YouTube. You can follow channels and receive new videos in your timeline.https://joinpeertube.org/
(DIR) Post #APRC5YVyz8XRcAuAEK by AIaYYAle4i1uKmKpqy.gme@bofh.social
2022-11-09T19:57:34.079003Z
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At least suggest people upload the videos to a PeerTube or PixelFed instance since those are also part of the federation.Egads.
(DIR) Post #APRbRUzXGNCjucHv8K by Sh4d0w_H34rt@mstdn.social
2022-11-09T21:21:51Z
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@layeredstrange *cough* @peertube @tilvids
(DIR) Post #APRbRVYz8ZYpgYsEO8 by tilvids@mstdn.social
2022-11-10T00:42:02Z
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@Sh4d0w_H34rt @layeredstrange @peertube Definitely recommend using #PeerTube to share videos. If you're making edutainment content, you're more than welcome to share at tilvids.com !
(DIR) Post #APTG3OBhJoWWez1nxg by PastaThief@indiepocalypse.social
2022-11-09T17:13:33Z
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Question: If people upload to PeerTube, so the federated messages take up the same resources on servers they hit that they would have had they posted them directly?
(DIR) Post #APTG3Ok5Fy1sNd7GYi by scanlime@misc.name
2022-11-09T17:56:46Z
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@PastaThief Videos are stored by the PeerTube server(s) and the fediverse only ends up handling metadata
(DIR) Post #APTG3Z1T2BsOGRKI2i by PastaThief@indiepocalypse.social
2022-11-09T18:01:23Z
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@scanlime Thank you! That's good to know!
(DIR) Post #APTG4H96z88R6tF14C by scanlime@misc.name
2022-11-09T17:56:09Z
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@layeredstrange the fediverse has an option especially for video hosting, check out #PeerTube https://joinpeertube.org/instances
(DIR) Post #APTSjV7J93sBlMp0Hw by stevefoerster@social.fossdle.org
2022-11-09T15:54:00Z
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@layeredstrange Yes, in general, but wouldn't a PeerTube instance be the most #Fedi choice?
(DIR) Post #APTSjViWufeBcoEjJ2 by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-09T16:00:59Z
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@stevefoerster I didn't know about peertube until the first mention today. Plus it's been mentioned a gazillion times already. Twitter peeps won't know about it instantly and any other video host is fine until they decide whether the fediverse is something they want to stick with.
(DIR) Post #APTSjW8PMSLav4LOds by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-10T22:13:26Z
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@layeredstrange> any other video host is fine until they decide whether the fediverse is something they want to stick with.Fair point. But FWIW hosting video on a PeerTube instance doesn't require people to use any other part of the fediverse. It's a website and links to the videos can be posted on Titter and other datafarms just as easily as here.@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APTTNQSprah8uqvdxY by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-10T22:20:41Z
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@strypey @stevefoerster I did add a Toot to this main one. Please read it.
(DIR) Post #APTjRDwdwxluVshiRU by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-10T18:04:43Z
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FYII'm not answering anymore questions in here.When I posted this I didn't know about federated media (video and photo) services such as peertube.It's been mentioned that much I want to throw my phone through a window. 🥺🙄
(DIR) Post #APWDyc0Ku6Snd7BiSG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-12T06:12:37Z
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@layeredstrangeAh, cool. I also see you edited your original post to replace YT with PT, awesome. Can't wait until the instance/ app I'm using fully supports the new post editing functions.BTW Sorry you got flooded with so many posts about PT. I posted a #FediTip encouraging folks to skim a thread before commenting to avoid this:https://mastodon.nzoss.nz/@strypey/109321798644557006FYI you can Mute Conversation on your original post if your @mentions are still getting hit about it.@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APWEAgeFSqq1VVc9Vw by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-12T06:14:46Z
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@strypey @stevefoerster I know about muting. It's just I left it open for new Tooters to reply if they needed any help. 😊
(DIR) Post #APWEVXW8bjd1GmlQsy by permagriculture@mas.to
2022-11-09T21:55:12Z
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@layeredstrangeDoes @peertube help here? I think that's torrent based?
(DIR) Post #APWEVY70Of7R780sLo by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-10T01:54:56Z
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@permagriculture @peertube Torrent based may still have it's limitations.Depending on the amount of seed, retrieving the video will be slow if the number of people storing the file is low and it also depends the the upload speeds of each seed. If all seeds disappear the file cannot be retrieve or may take a long while to download or stream.Torrent storage aspects always seem great and it may have grown but I still think that it might have its problems.
(DIR) Post #APWEVYbqXzmyemRVQG by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-12T06:18:32Z
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@layeredstrangeFYI @peertube uses WebSeeds to avoid the problems you mention. If only one person is watching a video they effectively just stream it from the instance hosting it. But if it goes viral the WebTorrent feature automatically kicks in to take pressure off the instance. It's a clever balance between reliability and scalability.In theory, two or more instances hosting the same video could share the steaming load between them. Not sure if that's a thing in practice.@permagriculture
(DIR) Post #APWEeb1OwqyMkChp0C by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-12T06:20:05Z
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@layeredstrangeFYI @peertube uses WebSeeds to avoid the problems you mention. If only one person is watching a video they effectively just stream it from the instance hosting it. But if it goes viral the WebTorrent feature automatically kicks in to take pressure off the instance. It's a clever balance between reliability and scalability.In theory, two or more instances hosting the same video could share the streaming load between them. Not sure if that's a thing in practice.@permagriculture
(DIR) Post #APWROAAYJeJCEYTr96 by permagriculture@mas.to
2022-11-12T08:42:52Z
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@strypeyI was surprised 'upload to peertube' wasn't already integrated into the mastodon UX.@layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APYRaOo26wvxQ6hZMO by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T07:54:31Z
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@layeredstrange> left it open for new Tooters to reply if they needed any help.Ah, good on you. I fear I may be stuck in tour guide mode after the events of the just week or so. Probably need to unplug for a few days ;)@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APYnqao7SKO6Garvrk by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-13T12:03:56Z
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@strypey @stevefoerster Yeah, well, I'm thinking of calling it quits.You mention one service you get knackered by the original Mastodon community for not mentioning federated services.You mention a federated service such as Peertube, you get knacked for not mentioning YouTube by the Twitter s**ts
(DIR) Post #APYv3tbbZjqC0nJ2AK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T13:24:48Z
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@permagriculture Don't his your breath ;) But maybe send that as a feature request to the people who write third-party apps. If a bunch of them do it and a lot of people use it, it might end up in Mastodon eventually.How do you imagine the feature knowing which PT instance to your to? How would it handle authentication to the user account on that instance?@layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APYvlMkf5RPIrJGowS by permagriculture@mas.to
2022-11-13T13:32:38Z
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@strypey @layeredstrange @peertube I guess to begin I could do a demo site with associated peertube instance, or find an existing Mastodon admin who was interested in maintaining a peertube instance.
(DIR) Post #APZ0AykBMwjfkJVyO8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T14:22:07Z
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@layeredstrangeNo good deed goes unpunished... :/@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APZ0HpFj3VtuKvX9Q8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T14:23:18Z
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@layeredstrangeNo good deed goes unpunished... :/@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APZ17fOMxiW8oSIR6m by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T14:32:42Z
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@permagricultureNot sure how having both instances on the same server or under the same domain would help. The Mastodon instance still needs to get an address for the account that you want to upload to (@account@PTInstance.foo) and get permission to upload to that PT instance as the user. Maybe LDAP could help here? @lightweight ?@layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APZ28dCIhuYIFYfvJA by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-13T14:44:04Z
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@strypey @stevefoerster Better guideline and guidance, as documentation needs to be provided to those who are new to the fediverse.
(DIR) Post #APZZho77PQYcjHdG08 by permagriculture@mas.to
2022-11-13T20:54:34Z
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@strypey It would only help in the sense that the Mastodon admin would trust the Peetube admin & could have confidence in sending users there. Users would still need to login (As on Youtube/Vimeo/Whatever) but in the event of a viral video your server load is reduced due to torrents.I think Peertube and Mastodon both support OIDC? If you were feeling fancy you could do a Keycloak instance too.@lightweight @layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APZk2y9kGYbLUwaf3Y by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T22:56:05Z
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@layeredstrange💯%. I recently had an idea for automating some of the work of guiding newly arrived fedizens, and I just saw on SocialHub I'm not the only person thinking along the same lines:https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/talking-about-the-twittermigration/2639/9@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APZlAVLrLQoQQuPhxI by layeredstrange@mstdn.social
2022-11-13T23:08:37Z
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@strypey @stevefoerster Sounds like an interesting idea. If I had a full understanding of coding languages, I would have helped out. 😊
(DIR) Post #APag6D5azptE1RtoUS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-14T09:46:34Z
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@permagriculture> the Mastodon admin would trust the Peetube admin & could have confidence in sending users thereSure, I see the value of forming trusted partnerships between instances. But that doesn't require the two instances to be on the same server or under the same domain name. Not saying it's a bad idea though, in fact I'd love to see more community-hosting platforms like Disroot.org integrating many different free code services.@lightweight @layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APagXOMBDDLwmpcLmC by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-13T21:29:53Z
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@permagriculture @strypey @layeredstrange @peertube Been playing with Keycloak for while, even ha
(DIR) Post #APagXOpbRotAG5Nqdc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-14T09:51:25Z
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@lightweight You're not the only one, here's a short write-up from @blacklight , an admin on platypush.tech:https://social.platypush.tech/@blacklight/108316695070922874@permagriculture @layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APagc6NhTK4QU6Zgga by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-14T09:51:50Z
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@lightweight > Been playing with Keycloak for whileYou're not the only one, here's a short write-up from @blacklight , an admin on platypush.tech:https://social.platypush.tech/@blacklight/108316695070922874@permagriculture @layeredstrange @peertube
(DIR) Post #APaiYPi9rTRTBYVqds by permagriculture@mas.to
2022-11-14T10:13:57Z
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@strypey @lightweight @blacklight @layeredstrange @peertube I'm hopeful https://solidproject.org/TR/oidc-primer might happen one day. Users could then auth against #Solid via Keycloak
(DIR) Post #APamxlrj1rIex5KnWi by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-14T11:03:29Z
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@layeredstrangeIANAE but I'm guessing you could modify an existing bot program for the purpose? Like the alt-text bot people can follow to remind them when they forget to put a text description on images they upload.@stevefoerster
(DIR) Post #APnmBqhKHkuv5t6ACG by masstransitkrow@federation.ninetiesmysteri.es
2022-11-20T17:26:06.626346Z
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even better - host the video on a public-facing web site where you have access to the local storage and link it here. Most servers can place an upload cap anyways to prevent that. Mine's 16 MB - the post would refuse to publish if a larger file was added.
(DIR) Post #APoEaQACsD0ekv71E0 by kinetix@mycrowd.ca
2022-11-20T20:59:27.791408Z
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@layeredstrange I love it when there's a helpful suggestion that then goes semi off the rails.You'll note that many people will block or reject or be somewhat unhappy about direct Youtube or possibly even Vimeo links, utilizing anonymizing or other 'filtering' services instead.There's a federated video hosting service called Peertube, and while there are indeed a bunch of junk instances, there are many that are moderated, don't federate with junk, and would love to have users making decent use of them.video.mycrowd.ca is one, @sean runs one, there's @tilvids etc.I do absolutely agree that video hosting should be put somewhere off of the microblogging platforms, and I would love to see more activity in the services that are activitypub federated.