Post APTQHvESFvSkk1t0eu by stingray@poa.st
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 (DIR) Post #APSay9lxOFsaNqNGwC by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-10T12:11:27.861650Z
       
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       When you were a kid, did you even think about being “gender conforming” or “gender nonconforming”?Short hair and casual, neutral-looking clothing was normal in the 1970s and 1980s.  While the term “tomboy” did exist, my friends and I didn’t think of these girls as being in any important way different from other girls.Now, it’s a big question – like, “Oh my god, these children are not gender conforming!  What do we do?”
       
 (DIR) Post #APSyHWtBxt8wWhxu7M by blingring@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-10T16:31:46.932785Z
       
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       @Cousin_Isobel 1990s teen self can confirm it was the same for me and most girls I knew. This was the era for grunge where I lived in big jeans and holey t-shirts and checked shirts. Also, undercut Bob was The Shit.
       
 (DIR) Post #APSyzQ0itswDw1Pq7s by firebird2110@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-10T16:37:18.237034Z
       
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       @Cousin_Isobel In the 80s I remember jeans and sweatshirt being the unofficial uniform at 6th form for both sexes.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTODdIgmeiq3oh4y0 by stingray@poa.st
       2022-11-10T17:05:52.895421Z
       
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       @Cousin_Isobel Not in those exact words, but I did have a pretty severe "not like other girls" or "just wanna be one of the guys" phase. I think a lot of it was pushback against school uniforms and being shoved into ballet classes that I hated.I barely scraped by. If I had been born just a few years later, I really think I could have been convinced to troon out.When I hit my late teens/early 20s I was finally allowed to cut my hair short and wear pants and loads of my friends started becoming TIFs or "enbies." I tried the they/them thing for like a week before deciding it felt stupid and forced.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTOW4XmESwRlbXlfk by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-10T21:26:38.220849Z
       
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       @stingray Oh, wow.  I am sorry to hear this.  It sounds like you were born a good bit after me.  I was born in the mid-1970s.  When I was in my 20s, I had still barely heard of TIFs, if at all.  I feel like maybe I had seen a video once, but it was more like a strange thing that happened in some remote place on Earth and which I would never encounter in real life.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTQHvESFvSkk1t0eu by stingray@poa.st
       2022-11-10T21:45:07.122259Z
       
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       @Cousin_Isobel Ah yeah, I was an early 90s baby. I think gender weirdness, particularly grooming kids into gender weirdness, really took off as the internet became more widely accessible, more centralized, and less supervised. This shit sure didn't happen (or was less widespread) when kids were only allowed to go on Neopets and library websites.
       
 (DIR) Post #APTQlNkVJG4naCvO7s by Cousin_Isobel@spinster.xyz
       2022-11-10T21:51:48.301400Z
       
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       @stingray It seems to me that there was a shift from the 1990s to the 2020s in thinking about “online privacy.”  In the 1990s, the whole family used the same desktop computer, and thinking about privacy was about not revealing anything personal online – no names, no photos, no personal information of any kind.Now, almost every Internet-enabled device comes with a password to prevent other household members from easily using it, but people put their real names and photos, in addition to all other sorts of personal information, all over the place.Who decided that we wanted privacy from our immediate family members, but not from anyone else?
       
 (DIR) Post #APTWRc7clGKO5phD2O by stingray@poa.st
       2022-11-10T22:54:59.994971Z
       
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       @Cousin_Isobel I'm not entirely sure. I can say that when I was a kid I had a paper diary and I always became furious when my family read it even though it just said shit like "Megan is my BFF."My paper diary wasn't on blast to the entire world wide web though.