Post APL3XRh6TrNcHKF0UK by alyx@gameliberty.club
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(DIR) Post #APKUnh7zMyuiNmpSro by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T14:24:37Z
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The straights are not okay
(DIR) Post #APKUrncbAUJxgH6UqG by iceloops@lizards.live
2022-11-06T14:25:23Z
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@Rasp widows they say? Sign me up
(DIR) Post #APKV5S3S9MTqqYAt9c by WabbityWabbit@kolektiva.social
2022-11-06T14:27:47Z
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@Rasp were they ever tho 🤔
(DIR) Post #APKVKgQoym55mOMsdc by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T14:30:35Z
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@WabbityWabbit I never implied they were
(DIR) Post #APKVNR2ydRc4vxWkiG by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T14:30:53Z
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@WabbityWabbit I never implied they were
(DIR) Post #APKVStvEhnqhw7VrDE by WabbityWabbit@kolektiva.social
2022-11-06T14:32:03Z
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@Rasp I meant it as more of a joke
(DIR) Post #APKVwFi2mQhzuFL1KS by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2022-11-06T14:33:40.856116Z
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@Rasp @WabbityWabbit what the hell is a trans widow?I have to assume it's not just a trans woman who's a widow...
(DIR) Post #APKVwGHqdJLfhI5c8W by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T14:37:22Z
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@mer @WabbityWabbit The idea is those who married a trans person who was either not out or more likely unaware and then the relationship died when they came out.
(DIR) Post #APKW4cCn1b5ZzbhtAW by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T14:38:52Z
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@mer @WabbityWabbit basically TERFS who feel like the "Trans" stole their partner. Ya know... assholes.
(DIR) Post #APKWSSA41H6tn9na7M by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T14:43:11Z
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@mer @WabbityWabbit the transphobic bitter-divorcee flag if you will.
(DIR) Post #APKWvx16NXhXt0fkZs by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-11-06T14:48:31.196661Z
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@Rasp it that fucking france?
(DIR) Post #APKXWlOkXUXeZBHrG4 by wakame@tech.lgbt
2022-11-06T14:55:08Z
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@Rasp @mer @WabbityWabbit "I thought I was a proper cis housewive. Turns out I am a lesbian instead."People can make a drama out of the smallest things (pun half intended).Seriously: I that to ace of me to consider a person I love more important than their gender?
(DIR) Post #APKXuEGDObFak3U5Sa by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T14:59:24Z
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@Rasp @mer @WabbityWabbit >Ya know... assholesI was with you, up until you called random people you know nothing about assholes. Here's the thing, it's not just that people grief over the collapse of their relationships. It's that everyone around a trans-person is being forced to act as if the individual, prior to transitioning, never existed in the first place. It's the taboo people such as yourself place around recognizing that people like Ellen Page, the Wachowski brothers, or Bruce Jenner ever existed. Everyone around a trans-person, after coming out, is forced to deny their own memories, experiences or love that existed for the person prior to said coming out, or risk offending the sensibilities of not only the trans-person, but everyone in polite society. They effectively need to act as if the person they knew died, cause otherwise people such as yourself will attack them. If you cannot comprehend the pain that is caused as a CONSEQUENCE of the environment the trans activists have created, then you need to look at yourself in the mirror, because you're the asshole.
(DIR) Post #APKYyH6uqDzOh3cyzg by mer@cdrom.tokyo
2022-11-06T15:06:56.870608Z
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@alyx @Rasp @WabbityWabbit There's an adaptation period, no sane trans person is getting mad if you accidently mix names or pronouns up for a while after they come out. After that, if you stay in contact you're not forgetting the past, you're just seeing them as they are now and being polite about the past.Getting really hung up on the past is a thing that happens when you cut ties because they come out. You never get to see them change so you never update your mental image of them. Of course it's troubling.Imagine someone gets clean off heroin and you go around whining that they don't tell everyone that they used to be a junkie.And yeah, that might make a marriage incompatible. But my straight parents worked out a less spiteful separation than whatever this shit is, despite hating each other.
(DIR) Post #APKYyHTFVBqzoK4onw by Rasp@raru.re
2022-11-06T15:11:20Z
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@mer @alyx @WabbityWabbit I have an "Everybody gets one" policy when it comes to screwing up. Unless they're intentionally being an asshole.
(DIR) Post #APKZZEUBYwsJGf8Ppo by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T15:18:02Z
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@Rasp @mer @WabbityWabbit >"Everybody gets one" Someone that has known the past you for a while won't manage to instantly adjust to the change and manage to keep the mistakes within your "everybody gets one" policy. Or in other words, sounds like you are being the asshole. Which is good to know for me, since I had a different impression.
(DIR) Post #APKZuRaM3Q9xyb8PWC by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T15:21:51Z
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@mer @WabbityWabbit @Rasp >no sane trans person is getting madExcept trans people do, all the time. And you can't call out any one of them for being inconsiderate, unreasonable or "not sane", because the second you do: "TRANSPHOBE!!!" >Imagine someone gets clean off heroin and you go around whining that they don't tell everyone that they used to be a junkie.Not quite the best analogy. Let me fix it for you: Imagine someone barely is clean for a few weeks, and you're supposed to act like they never had a heroin problem. Ever.
(DIR) Post #APKawSfZ5vdbs767Au by Paradox@raru.re
2022-11-06T15:33:25Z
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@Rasp So they want their husbands to die?
(DIR) Post #APKdxB6QC1NRXch1Bg by mer@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-06T16:02:23.261Z
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@alyx@gameliberty.club @Rasp@raru.re @mer@cdrom.tokyo @WabbityWabbit@kolektiva.social It's really easy to see when people are trying and when they're not. Maybe one out of ten of the people I hear using this excuse are actually trying.
(DIR) Post #APKdxBdkC823CyHd7w by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T16:07:10Z
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@mer@minidisc.tokyo @mer@cdrom.tokyo @Rasp @WabbityWabbit And I also see plenty of examples when a trans-person can't wait to plunge at the opportunity to feign outrage and offense, and destroy a person, irrespective if people are trying or not.
(DIR) Post #APKvxMev1bBQYe4EF6 by ciepeuko@mastodon.lol
2022-11-06T19:28:50Z
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@Rasp how do they even come up with this stuff
(DIR) Post #APL3AwPU77OysiGjqq by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-11-06T20:49:47.744289Z
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@alyx @mer @mer @Rasp @WabbityWabbit reading through this thread, I see one person "plunging at an opportunity to (feign?) outrage and offense", and they appear to be projecting
(DIR) Post #APL3VbQ9LY57rjQrEe by mer@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-06T16:15:21.991Z
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@alyx@gameliberty.club @mer@cdrom.tokyo @Rasp@raru.re @WabbityWabbit@kolektiva.social Welcome to the fact that trans persons are persons. Not all people are cool and not all trans persons are cool.But if you have a brain it's easy to see one side of the issue is a minority attracting hate for who they are while the other is a minority not being very chill because being under attack for being who they are is stressful. Some would even say as a defense mechanism.
(DIR) Post #APL3VbqNm147B5ho7k by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T20:53:31Z
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@mer@minidisc.tokyo @mer@cdrom.tokyo @Rasp @WabbityWabbit > Some would even say as a defense mechanism.Be careful with that defense mechanism. Trans activists have pushed things a little too far, and the average person, that normally was on your side, is getting closer and closer to not wanting to deal with the commotion created by a minority of the population. It used to be that feminists were the ones that screamed much too loudly for their own good, and attracted the people's ire. Now I'm seeing that negative attention going towards the trans community overall. It might not be the "defense mechanism" that has attracted attention, but it might end up being the cherry on top.
(DIR) Post #APL3XRh6TrNcHKF0UK by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T20:53:53Z
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@dhfir @mer@cdrom.tokyo @WabbityWabbit @mer@minidisc.tokyo @Rasp If you have something useful to contribute, good. If not, I don't care what you think.
(DIR) Post #APL4FPnksYRT9MJoJs by mer@minidisc.tokyo
2022-11-06T20:58:59.774Z
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@alyx@gameliberty.club @mer@cdrom.tokyo @Rasp@raru.re @WabbityWabbit@kolektiva.social Are you living under a rock or are you gaslighting me? I'm getting whiplash from this post fucking hell.
(DIR) Post #APL4FQFPDkYmX7FtQ0 by alyx@gameliberty.club
2022-11-06T21:01:49Z
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@mer@minidisc.tokyo @mer@cdrom.tokyo @Rasp @WabbityWabbit I don't know what you think is the "gaslight", so don't know what to say.
(DIR) Post #APL6aahbkElGwpfUtE by dhfir@expired.mentality.rip
2022-11-06T21:28:02.712618Z
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@alyx @mer @WabbityWabbit @mer @Rasp I believe there's a saying for this.something about pots and kettles?in short, your entire position appears to be whinging about people you don't seem to have met and insisting your caricature of them is objective reality.calling it entirely devoid of merit might be technically incorrect but is practically true.
(DIR) Post #APLDUCOTuSQdUwcZrk by horsebatteryhealth@mastodon.online
2022-11-06T22:45:16Z
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@Rasp I feel like that post is going to be read out at a trial one day.