Post APH7PBd52EIBcN1Ah6 by tkenben@mstdn.io
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(DIR) Post #APH7P9lVxtqnpwwsYy by nevali@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T12:30:40Z
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in theory, if the fediverse actually gains traction, we'd start to see instances more tailored to particular groups of users' needs, and it being less about who else is on an instance (without rapid portability it's of limited pull) and more what features it provides to its users
(DIR) Post #APH7PAO9eEl7ln1jn6 by nevali@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T12:44:58Z
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communities oriented around instances only work if you have one identity (account) per community you engage with, each on a different instance, which is not workable for most peopleat some point someone will come up with channels or groups or something i guess
(DIR) Post #APH7PAng7LAx2wy7Zg by tkenben@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T15:29:57Z
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@nevali That may be the future of the internet. A person has more than one identity, one for each context. For example, there will be a Bob that the employer and government have an ID for, monetary IDs for bob_wallet_1, bob_wallet_2, etc that are used for money accounts, an ID that cycling friends know as bob_the_cyclist, that poker friends know as bob_the_player, and so on.
(DIR) Post #APH7PBFKSXIGQhuCfo by pogodon@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T17:37:43Z
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@tkenben @nevali it's a broken vision for the future since cross-polination of ideas is important. Usenet has groups, but you can subscribe to multiple differing groups and crosspost when appropriate. Even in 2022, I've seen useful crossposts between mail and slackware group, between newsreader and android group.
(DIR) Post #APH7PBd52EIBcN1Ah6 by tkenben@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T21:28:32Z
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@pogodon @nevali My response probably wasn't really helpful for the present moment. I too don't like splitting my identity as it stands. But, over the last year I have seen people I follow make it work. One guy has like 12 different identities using more than just fediverse. He also uses things like XMPP and Matrix. But, I find it trivial to keep track of all his and others' identities on my end. I actually kind of like this new way of interacting.
(DIR) Post #APH7PCfbALtuqTChG4 by tkenben@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T15:31:02Z
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@nevali As for now, one way to consolidate your fediverse is by running your own hubzilla. But, as you will see if you look at that, it is not UX friendly and actually arguably painful. Most people just deal with multiple identities.
(DIR) Post #APH7n3IheVNmjkrnPM by tkenben@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T19:47:37Z
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@pogodon @nevali I imagine they would be orthogonal only in so far as to make them separate enough to be useful. They would be subsets of another more higher up ID. A user can have one or more base IDs as they tailor their digital presence.
(DIR) Post #APH7n3k011DW6PdaxE by nevali@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T21:30:11Z
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@tkenben @pogodon right. yes. as i was espousing, your "base id" would be the ID you have now and then you join channels/groups which is then a managed sub-identity within that context (which could be transferred when you migrate)
(DIR) Post #APH7n47Oc1vrGyaHQG by nevali@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T21:33:22Z
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@tkenben @pogodon once you have a notion of a selective group of users of some kind which spans instances, you in effect create a two-tier system of identities anyway, there's <person> and there's <person within the group>, even if you don't provide a way to customise one's profile as distinct from the other, they're still conceptually two linked identities, in effect, one yours and one "managed" in the group, that is destroyed when you leave
(DIR) Post #APH7n4Xz1BCQbR1Vrc by nevali@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T21:35:08Z
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@tkenben @pogodon but actually coming up with the mechanism for managing those groups and waiting it for it to have widespread implementation across the fediverse is the hard bit, differential identity follows naturally afterwards—until that happens, communities are tied to instances and of fairly limited value
(DIR) Post #APH7n588qk7gPZwODw by tkenben@mstdn.io
2022-11-04T23:11:46Z
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@nevali @pogodon You may also be interested in alternative "in development" forms of social media using technologies like ipfs, hypercore, bittorrent, etc., many of which use some variation of pubsub. Unfortunately those also require you to run extra muscle on your own machine to serve those respective protocols.
(DIR) Post #APH7n5ieezKWEp1Y8W by Hyolobrika@gleasonator.com
2022-11-04T23:22:39.524413Z
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@tkenbenI'm interested in them. I have heard of one using Hypercore called 'Fritter', but the URL I found no longer resolves last time I checked.Also, are these SNSs controlled by a central controller? I ask because I know that Hypercore sites and IPNS URLs are updated by the owner of their private keys.@nevali @pogodon
(DIR) Post #APLudZUPhp0XlO6yYa by Scornflakegrrrl@mastodon.social
2022-11-05T08:26:57Z
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@nevali I don’t like things broken up too much. The thing I loved about the bird app is how it drew me into the most random communities via a random tweet by someone about something else. If people use different identities for different interests that dies