Post APCocmshAYep9iFnkm by shellkr@mstdn.io
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(DIR) Post #APCl5IQr3ckhIiZQ5w by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2022-11-02T17:04:02Z
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Some of my followers know me and my way of thinking since many years. What should I blog about? What would you like to hear from me? Open question.
(DIR) Post #APCl5J4uegnLIxJPX6 by isotopp@chaos.social
2022-11-02T17:28:42Z
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@jwildeboer open source fundamentals in 2022, the problem with monetization, freemium, SaaS vs GPL, decline of the GPL, future of OSS in the face of cloud
(DIR) Post #APCl5JcwcA170VEaZs by BenBen@chaos.social
2022-11-02T18:25:55Z
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@isotopp @jwildeboer Sidenote: I'm still staggered that OSS-Projects in the frontend-realm are now ventured and can "join" big tech companies… (last example: https://shopify.engineering/remix-joins-shopify). Crazy times…
(DIR) Post #APCl5K4EyfqqNA0O7k by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2022-11-02T18:29:09Z
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@BenBen @isotopp That's one of the big questions. Does altruistic #OpenSource have a future? Can F/OSS projects exist without corporate backing?
(DIR) Post #APCl5KTPT5z5dDmUM4 by brunomiguel@masto.pt
2022-11-02T18:38:06Z
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@jwildeboer I hope it does or we're screwed @BenBen @isotopp
(DIR) Post #APCl5KY1BxfdrVwAXQ by isotopp@chaos.social
2022-11-02T19:33:32Z
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@jwildeboer Ok, now with a keyboard from home instead of broken Apple phone in the bus:If all Open Source Software exists to be added to AWS as a service to make the Bezos richer, and if all OTHER Open Source exists only as serverless functions and AWS Constructs created by CDK, what is the purpose of OSS in 2022 in the first place?
(DIR) Post #APCl5Kpk83qgkUEKAK by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-02T20:49:22Z
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@brunomiguel @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp The generational switch and how the difference of generations plays out in F/OSS. How the important bits of the old guards can live on while still invigorate and keep the community in the current.
(DIR) Post #APCl5LwA1gZoAgExo8 by isotopp@chaos.social
2022-11-02T19:34:48Z
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@jwildeboer And in step 2 then:If the GPL 2, GPL 3, AGPL, BSL and other licenses and clauses, OSI compliant or not did not help to solve this problem, what can?
(DIR) Post #APCl5NLMnSKiX92bjc by isotopp@chaos.social
2022-11-02T19:35:24Z
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@jwildeboer That is in short, what is the purpose of OSS in 2022, and how can we make it work (for us, instead of for the Bezos?)
(DIR) Post #APCl5OdpyGhaYigsAC by isotopp@chaos.social
2022-11-02T19:38:31Z
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@jwildeboer From you, and then a series of interviews with OSS figureheads. Also make sure to include Peter Zaitsev in one of these interviews, and Richard Hartmann in another.
(DIR) Post #APCl5PtTJcnoRV0sAi by isotopp@chaos.social
2022-11-02T19:39:40Z
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@jwildeboer Also maybe find out if there is an OSS Evangelist from AWS available and ask them about their position and thinking in this matter.
(DIR) Post #APCmFSrTEiPmUrQqjA by brunomiguel@masto.pt
2022-11-02T20:55:20Z
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@shellkr that's a tricky one to answer. I'm rooting for the spirit of the old way to keep on living, but if it will happen or not is very hard to predict, IMO. @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp
(DIR) Post #APCocmshAYep9iFnkm by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-02T21:29:04Z
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@brunomiguel @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp Yes, because if you do not follow the tide you will die eventually.. but too many compromises will also kill you. How do you keep the balance without tipping to much on either side. It is a hard one...Linus, @gregkh and the others in the old guard are not getting younger.
(DIR) Post #APCouE0BaVxcBz4Y0e by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-02T21:32:14Z
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@brunomiguel @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp @gregkh Also... do we go a hopeful #solarpunk future or a dystopic #cyberpunk? If FOSS is weakened too much...
(DIR) Post #APCpq2t34VOaW0Iy6i by brunomiguel@masto.pt
2022-11-02T21:35:45Z
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@shellkr I'm a bit scared about the future, in part because younger generations seem to have an "enterprise" mindset and that doesn't fit too well with the Free Software mindset. I'll have to wait and see how things end up and hope for the best @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp @gregkh
(DIR) Post #APCuBnVbKNLH0Yxu4W by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-02T22:31:25Z
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@brunomiguel Yes, exactly.. but there is nothing wrong in hoping to live on your hobby. Not even Stallman was able to crack this one. Also... desktop computers are not as exciting as they used to be. We have stuff like Phones, IOT, AI, AR, VR and soon Quantum technology. Very complex systems. How can FOSS keep up..@jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp
(DIR) Post #APCvinKx5SYhzBHZD6 by jwildeboer@social.wildeboer.net
2022-11-02T22:44:24Z
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@shellkr @BenBen @isotopp @brunomiguel Is it still a hobby when you hope to live on it? IMHO that is a huge change in perspective.
(DIR) Post #APCwV8ncarFyRykHU8 by brunomiguel@masto.pt
2022-11-02T22:53:52Z
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@shellkr agreed, nothing wrong in trying to make a living with Free Software @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp
(DIR) Post #APCxKVAlAbdsbm3ibI by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-02T23:06:37Z
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@jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp @brunomiguel Yes, exactly.. but what kind of bias does that carry.. What effect do it have on the project when you have it as a hobby vs work.Very few project can live on support alone. If you work for someone else. What kind of restrictions or boundaries will that carry.. e.t.c..
(DIR) Post #APItMWdZSfm0rV0JxQ by itzpaquet@novo-atlantis.null.media
2022-11-04T15:02:47.582373Z
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@shellkr @brunomiguel @jwildeboer @BenBen @isotopp lmao foss has little to do with solarpunk. is free software going to grow your food? not directly, and maybe not at all. running computers is really expensive and only realistically a tiny part of a solarpunk rebellion.solar and cyber are different sides of the same universe
(DIR) Post #APItMX6zhHJEKklooq by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-05T19:50:24Z
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@itzpaquet @isotopp @BenBen @jwildeboer @brunomiguel Yes, it does and do actually... take a look at #farmbot (https://farm.bot/). Though solar is not just farming. Solar is the positive DIY technological future. Where people live in a post scarcity society together as a community. While cyberpunk is pretty much the opposite.To me #solarpunk is #FOSS and has to be FOSS or it will become #cyberpunk.
(DIR) Post #APJEV6qPjtQiDLlTQ8 by itzpaquet@novo-atlantis.null.media
2022-11-05T20:09:37.408740Z
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@shellkr @isotopp @BenBen @jwildeboer @brunomiguel buying raspberry pis and solar panels doesn't create post-scarity. where do you suppose those devices come from? do you think they're going to last forever? some of the ideas are fine, but they don't get down to a fundamental enough level. you need extensive industrial support systems to make any of this farmbot stuff work.it just shows a huge lack of imagination.
(DIR) Post #APJEV7Njk05JshM5MO by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-05T23:47:16Z
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@itzpaquet @isotopp @BenBen @jwildeboer @brunomiguel No, but it has to start somewhere and the farmbot was just an example on how do to it and why FOSS is important. The technology has to be available to everyone for it to be solarpunk. Punk is DIY. Also community and sharing is important.Cyberpunk on the other hand is not likely FOSS. Society is run by megacorps and the cyberpunk is playing the system. Not sharing your secrets.
(DIR) Post #APJElj5xI9rxToxQe0 by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-05T23:50:16Z
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@itzpaquet @isotopp @BenBen @jwildeboer @brunomiguel Post scarcity is when you can automate production enough so that you do not need humans to run it. In many areas we are already there. In others it needs more time. It has to be post-capitalism because capitalism needs scarcity to work and will create artificial scarcity when needed.Personally I find UBI to be a very interesting possibility. It has also been tested around the world.
(DIR) Post #APJEuM6q7bSqnUUBnc by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-05T23:51:48Z
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@itzpaquet @isotopp @BenBen @jwildeboer @brunomiguel Post scarcity is when you can automate production enough so that you do not need humans to run it. In many areas we are already there. In others it needs more time. It has to be #post-capitalism because #capitalism needs scarcity to work and will create artificial #scarcity when needed.Personally I find #UBI to be a very interesting possibility. It has also been tested around the world.
(DIR) Post #APJEzhXBtKDWh4MPKK by shellkr@mstdn.io
2022-11-05T23:52:49Z
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@itzpaquet @isotopp @BenBen @jwildeboer @brunomiguel Post scarcity is when you can automate production enough so that you do not need humans to run it. In many areas we are already there. In others it needs more time. It has to be #post_capitalism because #capitalism needs scarcity to work and will create artificial #scarcity when needed.Personally I find #UBI to be a very interesting possibility. It has also been tested around the world.