Post AP5C6aKQBjxF3Zu36m by weka@mastodon.nz
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(DIR) Post #AP4TfcXJTX8s6QGV6m by swansinflight@mastodon.nz
2022-10-29T07:27:30Z
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Oh look at the time Lots of new #NZTwits on mastodon.nz over the last couple of days :partyparrot:
(DIR) Post #AP4Tfcybq2ybT52Iee by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-29T20:55:36Z
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@swansinflightHopefully lots of the newbies stick around this time. I wonder if there's anything veterans can do to facilitate that?@drew
(DIR) Post #AP4UuxqackfOUlA6Mq by swansinflight@mastodon.nz
2022-10-29T21:07:53Z
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@strypey @drew probably no more than we do now. It's up to people to realise their dopamine addiction and build themselves a new community here.
(DIR) Post #AP4tCiEDpa4WAODBGS by isaacfreeman@cloudisland.nz
2022-10-30T01:42:10Z
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@strypey @drew @swansinflight In the short term there’s lots of helping going on, which is great. After that though, I reckon it probably helps to be yourself and post what you’re interested in, so there are reasons to make connections and stick around after people have exhausted the topic of what Mastodon is and how it differs from the birdsite.
(DIR) Post #AP5AsTLfF809OtBuNs by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T01:51:31Z
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@isaacfreeman @strypey @drew @swansinflight as a newbie, the biggest barrier is still in understanding how it all works. Getting past the impression that the people doing well here are geeks (positive use of that term, and it's a big plus for the place that so many ppl can explain how it works). It's pretty technical, I know I didn't stick around when I first joined.
(DIR) Post #AP5AsU2Cgy1rWp5sgq by drew@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T02:52:12Z
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@weka @isaacfreeman @strypey @swansinflight I'm just gonna use the bits i know and slowly increase my knowledge and engagement. It's a bit scary being among so many strangers.
(DIR) Post #AP5AsUTV3TratTrgEi by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T04:06:38Z
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@drew I just followed you, hope that's ok from a stranger 🙂
(DIR) Post #AP5AsUvrM2Y4JR8KRM by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:52:31Z
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@weka In my experience the netiquette is that it's fine to follow. Some people curate their follow requests, and may decline to approve them. Some give conditions in their profile text, eg interact with me first before making a follow request. But I've yet to come across a suggestion that's it's poor form to click 'follow' without permission or a prior relationship. @drew
(DIR) Post #AP5B1ZvIATcSOiCKDg by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:52:56Z
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@weka One problems with decentralized system is there's no one, obvious place to go for info. Lots of people have written good WhatIs and HowTo posts for their own blogs. There's a few portals that try to gather helpful links in one place, like fediverse.party , joinfediverse.wiki , and socialhub.activitypub.rocks . But it's hard enough for veterans to keep track of all these diffuse and sometimes ephemeral resources, it must be crazy confusing for newbies.@isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5Bkn449f8CBcrPY8 by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:02:00Z
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@strypey @drew it was more a nod to their comment about being among so many strangers 🙂
(DIR) Post #AP5C6aKQBjxF3Zu36m by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:04:04Z
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@strypey I'm understanding about 1/3 of the explanations people are kindly giving me (or posting generally). There's something very enticing about the nature of Mastodon, I haven't felt this excited about the internet in a very long time. I'm highly motivated to put the effort in to making work, I'm curious how this will work for others.@isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5C6bw2DNdU2WVbNI by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:04:46Z
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@strypey tbf, other people are better at going with the flow, I like to know how things work 😬 😁@isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5DXadhEy4VnHMMF6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T05:14:18Z
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@weka Oh, true, that's very clear on a reread. I got stuck in tour guide mode :P@drew
(DIR) Post #AP5EAu9WckYRbhzgh6 by shipp@mastodon.social
2022-10-30T05:21:42Z
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@strypey I like that though, it also means people are free to explore it their own way rather then copy the current culture. It also tests the design, that the UX should be easy to understand and pick up even without how-tos and tips. I think mastodon does this pretty well currently.
(DIR) Post #AP5EyJmQ8AeFHKkV4S by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:30:51Z
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@strypey all good!@drew
(DIR) Post #AP5EyLThoirmXs0aB6 by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:31:48Z
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@strypey it was still a good generaly guidely thing to read@drew
(DIR) Post #AP5HjK3L8LhldyCiMy by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T05:17:31Z
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@weka @strypey I think it's safe to say, we all respect and value that in any community member!@isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5HjKX7LdWZ8K8Ume by jens@social.finkhaeuser.de
2022-10-30T05:39:04Z
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@lightweight @weka @strypeyIMHO being exposed to this confusion and handling it can be exciting, and doubly satisfying when you get it. And the plus side is, if you have questions, someone on the fedi is likely to help out.@isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5HjL4RLkBAnfj6iu by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T05:41:28Z
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@jens @weka @strypey most of us are overjoyed that this little slice of digital paradise we've carved out for ourselves is a bit livelier! I think quite a few of us are pretty proud to show newcomers what's here already. This is what *communities* can build. No ulterior motives. @isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5HjLZzSRPsNWUIts by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T06:05:45Z
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@lightweight > most of us are overjoyed that this little slice of digital paradise we've carved out for ourselves is a bit livelier!Amen to that!@jens @weka @isaacfreeman @drew @swansinflight
(DIR) Post #AP5I9rlWPhTbjMWj7Q by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T06:10:45Z
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@shipp True, most people seem to be grokking the basics by themselves. But I do notice confusion about the difference between Local and Federated timelines, how to find people to follow (*especially* for those self-hosting or on new instances), how posting levels work (eg what's an "unlisted" post?), and why user IDs look more like email address rather than Titter handles. The lack of simple, canonical explanations for these basics can be a barrier to newbies getting comfy and sticking around.
(DIR) Post #AP5LYeIJw2UP3MNRXE by drew@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T06:27:38Z
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@strypey @lightweight @jens @weka @isaacfreeman @swansinflight right back at ya
(DIR) Post #AP5MFGMEo7S9GaWsRU by drew@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T06:31:12Z
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@strypey @weka @isaacfreeman @swansinflight the main thing for me is to not rush it. I don't need to know everything right now. Osmosis and experiment are fine
(DIR) Post #AP5gS5GFNEmphO7Nb6 by Viveka@aus.social
2022-10-30T10:54:11Z
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@strypey @shipp I reckon people are finding the explanations that suit them best. One of the explanations for the success of Minecraft was that to even get it running used to be difficult, so people started making howto videos. Then that got easy, but it was still tricky to install mods. Then to write mods… all the howto videos built the community.
(DIR) Post #AP6fPLXGVHg6VaAX3o by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T22:15:13Z
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@Viveka> I reckon people are finding the explanations that suit them best.I hope so. There's certainly no shortage of veterans keen to welcome newbies and help them find any help resource needed. I'm intrigued by your potted history of MineCraft, sounds very similar to what I've observed in the Fedi community over the last 15 years or so. @shipp