Post AP35Oc0bajTzUAMaES by weka@mastodon.nz
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(DIR) Post #AP2zHCSZaGIyUkWksK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-29T03:29:40Z
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I just realized you are @weka from The Standard. It would great to be able to follow The Standard itself from within the 'verse, and see a feed of the articles posted there. There are various tools for making blog sites spit out an ActivityPub feed so that's possible.#Aotearoa #NZ #blogs #TheStandard
(DIR) Post #AP35Oc0bajTzUAMaES by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-29T04:49:08Z
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@strypey hasn’t even thought of that. Will check back in later when I’m on my laptop, so I can ask questions and get my head around it. Cheers
(DIR) Post #AP560kSwz7SR2Fj53g by tetrislife@qoto.org
2022-10-30T04:05:43Z
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@strypey actually, we need fediverse clients that can handle more than AP, RSS at least (I am sure some do so already) @weka
(DIR) Post #AP58q3ZTuXqqxzNGjY by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T01:34:15Z
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anyone got a tutorial on linking wordpress blogs to Mastodon? @strypey#TheStandardNZ #Wordpress #Mastodon
(DIR) Post #AP59auuVvfm9iSYaKe by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:36:29Z
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@lightone @liaizon @humanetech What's the current state of the art for getting a WordPress blog to spit out an ActivityPub feed?@weka #WordPress #ActivityPub
(DIR) Post #AP59nh5Yd7Cac3oaVE by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:37:08Z
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@strypey @lightone @liaizon @humanetech @weka I've got a couple examples going... see, for example, https://oerfoundation.org
(DIR) Post #AP59zVCycu4vF2uqh6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:39:06Z
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@lightweight Can you link @weka to a good tutorial for getting it going?@lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5ACOzr24vZk0vfJA by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:40:56Z
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@strypey @weka I just installed the plugin and followed these directions: https://wordpress.org/plugins/activitypub/@lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5ACUrZDnrbw368Dw by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:42:22Z
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@strypey @weka the biggest trick is figuring out your 'handle' - it'll be your WP username @ your site URL. So in my case, on that site, it's @dave Hope that helps!@lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5ACWly7aZdrGUgm8 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:43:52Z
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@strypey @weka your posts will be a summary + link to new blog posts you make. I think you can opt to have other content also reflected in your feed, e.g. comments. @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5ACYHCWx9QWQ7960 by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T04:45:27Z
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@strypey @weka As far as I can tell, every WP user account automatically has gets a Fediverse identity if they want to use it, but there's no 'feed' associated with it (or at least I haven't found/looked for one)... @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5HBVbBhRmNbgudUW by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T04:57:21Z
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@lightweight like this? https://twitter.com/thestandard@strypey @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5HBW2q2dtgzRqiae by lightweight@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T05:04:16Z
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@weka @strypey I don't think so, given that's just a Twitter account, no? Or am I missing something?@dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5HBWSiUQb6HhxNvU by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:24:05Z
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@lightweight The website is https://thestandard.org.nz/ When a new post is published, it gets posted on several twitter accounts and FB. I'm was asking if that's what would happen with Mastodon, that when a new post was published, a toot with that post title, header and intro would appear on Mastodon.@strypey @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5HBWqT47b1TN4Lwm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T06:01:50Z
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@weka Ae, that's pretty much the sort of thing I'd expect to see in a fedi profile for The Standard. At minimum I would be able to browse its profile with a chronological list of posts, and follow the account to get new posts appearing in my timeline.@lightweight @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5HBXrZHW4Qd4akIi by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T05:24:43Z
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@lightweight or if there is some other thing that happens once one connects Mastodon and the WP site.@strypey @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5HBYH5kcUFuEX85I by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T06:03:50Z
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@weka Not sure what the current state of the art is in representing comments posted on articles at TheStandard.org.nz as replies on the post corresponding to that article. But it would be cool to be able to read TS comment threads from here too. Even cooler if I could reply to a post here from TheStandard account, and have my comment appear under the corresponding article on TheStandard.org.nz .@lightweight @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech
(DIR) Post #AP5RCLDgm0FtFRxNtQ by nzlemming@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T07:49:01Z
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@strypey @weka @lightweight @dave @lightone @liaizon @humanetech I disagree, I don't need comments fromeverywhere appearing in my timeline. Nitifications from posts is fine, but if I want to interact with Standard posts or readers, I'll go there to do that.
(DIR) Post #AP5TmUblXq9WhOaJPc by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T08:32:20Z
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@nzlemming I'm a bit confused. The only thing that appears in your home timeline is posts from accounts you've followed. If TheStandard had an account here and you followed it, you'd see stuff posted by that account in your timeline. Otherwise you wouldn't. If you clicked on one of those posts, you would see the comment thread (if there was one, either from the site or from the 'verse, or both). Is this clarification even vaguely helpful? @weka @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AP5ZTWvPJ3KY6i73qK by nzlemming@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T09:36:01Z
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@strypey @weka @lightweight What belongs on the site belongs on the site. I read your comment to mean that the comment threads on the site would appear on your Mastodon timeline if you were subscribed to the site's posts. That does not seem optimal to me, as some would inevitably get boosted and become part of the Mastodon fediverse. Notification that a post has appeared should be enough. Leave the rest to the site. It doesn't need to be in your timeline just because it technically can.
(DIR) Post #AP6c5A25GIIjB8GdEW by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T21:39:13Z
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@nzlemmingAFAIK the plugin allows @weka to choose what level of fedi integration to go for.To be clear, it seems like you're saying it's a bad idea for comments on The Standard articles to be visible in fedi apps, rather than only in web browsers pointed at the site itself. Is that right? If so, why?What about being able to comment on an article from here and have that appear in the comment thread on the site? Do you think that's a bad idea? If so, why? @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AP6cVewuw9PUatUCmm by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T21:44:43Z
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@nzlemmingIf TheStandard had an account in the 'verse, it's most likely also possible to have comment threads here, beginning with replied to its posts, without syndicating them back to the site. I can see pros and cons to that.Also, users could boost its posts, with the article title and link, giving them wider exposure to users in the'verse. Is that a good or bad thing in your mind?Interested in your thoughts on ask this too @weka @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AP6ctPO6RhnDHTWhWa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-30T21:45:17Z
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@nzlemmingIf TheStandard had an account in the 'verse, it's most likely also possible to have comment threads here, beginning with replies to its posts, without syndicating them back to the site. I can see pros and cons to that.Also, users could boost its posts, with the article title and link, giving them wider exposure to users in the'verse. Is that a good or bad thing in your mind?Interested in your thoughts on ask this too @weka @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AP6j8lGhyXlTDAluFs by nzlemming@mastodon.nz
2022-10-30T22:58:51Z
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@strypey @weka @lightweight I do think it's a bad idea. I'm already seeing comments that the federated feed is like drinking from a firehose. I wouldn't want to see the local feed go the same way. Just because you can do something, technically doesn't mean you should <insert Jeff_Goldblum'jpg>. Same with the comments idea. You'll get people commenting here who haven't read the article and don't know the players there. Each site has its own flavour and culture.
(DIR) Post #AP6yphFKIww6V83YtU by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-31T01:54:49Z
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@nzlemming> I wouldn't want to see the local feed go the same way.TheStandard would function as its own instance, so its posts wouldn't appear in any Local timeline. AFAIK only initial posts appear in Federated timeline, not replies (anyone know otherwise?). So while the posts representing articles from TheStandard would appear in the Federated timeline of any instance with a user following it's account, comments (from TS.org.nz or here) would not.@weka @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AP6zS03OpJZxptk4XI by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-31T02:01:19Z
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@nzlemming> Each site has its own flavour and culture.True, and that's a good argument against syndicating comments from here back to TheStandard.org.nz. But the 'verse is, by nature, a melting pot of flavours and cultures from different "sites" (instances). So the argument doesn't really work in the reverse direction. TS comments could be quality contributions to the discourse here, and any boosting of them may help the original article reach more readers.@weka @lightweight
(DIR) Post #AP7JEJYnVHz5MaBDiy by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-31T05:22:28Z
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@strypey @nzlemming @lightweight mNot sure what I think yet because I don’t understand how M works, and thus don’t get how TS would interface with M. I like the idea of people commenting from here. Not sure if the didn’t read the post thing would be any more of an issue than we already have at TS. What attracts me is that TS holds a space for serious debate and the mods, myself included, work to dissuade FB-isation of the discussions there…
(DIR) Post #AP7JELDxJkV8WWRbW4 by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-31T05:26:01Z
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@strypey @nzlemming @lightweight Mastodon has a conversational ethic that I haven’t seen online for a long time. I see potential for some cross pollination (more benefit for TS, I don’t have a sense of M as a debate place). There’s a really good energy here, TS used to have a good level of energy, it’s a bit flat currently (range of reasons but sm is part of it). Injection of some new ways of conversing would be good.
(DIR) Post #AP7JEMn5UcCJNltAum by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-31T05:26:46Z
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@strypey @nzlemming @lightweight Otoh, when forums first started integrating people commenting from FB, I found it really off putting. Might have been how it was done. I tend to tSo I can see pros and cons. First thing is to see if TS can either auto post here or use RSS. And I need some time to see if I can understand how M works, lol.
(DIR) Post #AP7JEOHbwcCw0jB488 by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-31T05:27:44Z
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@strypey also need to talk to sysop and other authors at TS. Not aware of any being on M. Yet 😈
(DIR) Post #AP7MVYvru4jTpAt4ds by weka@mastodon.nz
2022-10-31T05:31:03Z
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@nzlemming @strypey @lightweight Agree about own flavour and culture. But forums and blogs declined with SM so it makes sense to look at finding the best SM and integrating. Was in another convo in M the other day, excitement re the idea of blogging out from M, the value of low end, home brew internet.
(DIR) Post #AP7MVZQi3PP1MpJhiK by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-31T05:59:05Z
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@wekaAnother clarification that might help is that any comment syndication from the 'verse back to TS.org.nz would be subject to the same moderator oversight as comments posted directly in the site. I'm pretty sure mods could even set it up so fedi comments only appeared on the site if approved by a mod (or maybe from a pre-approved list of quality commenters). Mods could use instance blocks, user blocks etc as needed to avoid being flooded with nonsense.@nzlemming @lightweight