Post AP24zwAVJ5yTc0Ge1Y by aslmx@chaos.social
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 (DIR) Post #AOvHxZSogqTbugJcyO by aslmx@chaos.social
       2022-10-25T08:02:46Z
       
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       Another major #WhatsApp incident that seems to render a whole service of importance useless...use #decentralize|d services my friends 😉 Like #xmpp or #matrix It is not only about technical resilience but about a good bunch of other reason, too
       
 (DIR) Post #AOvI9gSQVtOb4wuQ88 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-25T10:35:09Z
       
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       @aslmx Federated networks need nomadic identity / account migration. Otherwise they are not much better than centralised services on that front.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOvK6QVnXg8ufE3ohc by debacle@framapiaf.org
       2022-10-25T10:56:56Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @aslmx Nomadic identity is a nice feature to have, but not an essential one. Account migration is more important and AFAIK even required by GDPR.Resilience is pretty good in federated networks, as long as not everyone is on the same server. Outages affect some people, but not everyone.Also, people can easily have multiple accounts. E.g. I have three #Jabber / #XMPP accounts: 1. work, 2. volunteer project, 3. private. They are in three different DCs.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOvKAa7xjYNLe0tQMy by stubenhocker@troet.cafe
       2022-10-25T10:57:43Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @aslmx https://migrate.modernxmpp.org/
       
 (DIR) Post #AOvKpLVkytuMBaSbnE by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-25T11:05:06Z
       
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       @stubenhocker @aslmx That's cool, but I would prefer to not use a service that can see all my data/passwords.And it would be even better if users were just identified by a public key from the very beginning. Less hassle and possibility of your existing provider going under and losing or banning you and deleting all your data before you get a chance to download it (that has happened to me multiple times before on fedi).
       
 (DIR) Post #AOvL3fUjToisDYoKTw by aslmx@chaos.social
       2022-10-25T11:07:40Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika Afaik that tool is implemented in Javascript and runs directly in your Browser. Sure that requires a certain level of trust.The privacy statement says> This application connects directly to your account and does not store or share your credentials or data with any third party.I believe this is the work of @mattj if i remember correctly? @stubenhocker
       
 (DIR) Post #AOvLiQUQAmyNYN6GKe by aslmx@chaos.social
       2022-10-25T11:15:00Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika The good thing is, it is relatively easy and cheap to selfhost xmpp and provide your own identities (i.e. JID with a domain under your control). Selfhosting matrix seems a bit more complicated to me (haven't figured that out yet). Sure, you're grandma/pa won't want to host their XMPP server. But it is enough if small communities that trust each other share a server, which is really not hat hard, since Snikket facilitates exactly this use case.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOw1ehRrNKFD4Ao8My by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-25T19:04:59Z
       
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       @aslmx>But it is enough if small communities that trust each other share a serverBut if/when the admin gets angry with someone for no good reason and bans them, they can't move so easily.
       
 (DIR) Post #AOw1hMl2l6d5lS3Hg8 by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-25T19:05:29Z
       
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       @aslmx Even if I am the admin, that's still a problem.
       
 (DIR) Post #AP24zveFF2AbzxAsk4 by bill@mastodon.sdf.org
       2022-10-26T04:36:09Z
       
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       @aslmx @Hyolobrika Here's an easy Matrix setup guide https://www.virtuallypotato.com/federated-matrix-server-synapse-on-oracle-clouds-free-tier/
       
 (DIR) Post #AP24zwAVJ5yTc0Ge1Y by aslmx@chaos.social
       2022-10-26T05:50:19Z
       
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       @bill Wow! That Guide looks detailed. Thanks for sharing. I'll add it to the "try out on a cold boring winter night" list 😀 @Hyolobrika
       
 (DIR) Post #AP24zwpGrWaHeRLCZE by bill@mastodon.sdf.org
       2022-10-26T05:53:35Z
       
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       @aslmx @Hyolobrika He has another guide to setup an #XMPP instance, on the same server using @snikket_im  https://www.virtuallypotato.com/snikket-private-xmpp-chat-on-oracle-cloud-free-tier/ You can copy and paste your way to your own #Matrix and #XMPP instances on the free tier of Oracle Cloud.
       
 (DIR) Post #AP24zxKoyDozEI6OkC by aslmx@chaos.social
       2022-10-26T05:57:09Z
       
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       @bill Thanks. I might send that to friends. I'm good XMPP wise, happily running a prosody at home (and one in the cloud for testing) for I think 7 years now :-) - But I also did a live demo/presentation of snikket at work once, showing people how cheap and easy it would be to register a domain and spin up a Hetzner VPS.But I definitely would like to try out if matrix selfhosting is possible, too...@Hyolobrika @snikket_im
       
 (DIR) Post #AP24zxl3OgnyXeNLdI by bill@mastodon.sdf.org
       2022-10-26T06:01:43Z
       
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       @aslmx @Hyolobrika @snikket_im Using this guide I have #Snikket #XMPP and #Matrix running on Oracle's free cloud tier so the only cost is a domain. Lots of fun to have both!Now I just need to find a way to setup my own #Mastodon
       
 (DIR) Post #AP24zyBzmWM7tCyrcu by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-28T17:10:41Z
       
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       @bill @aslmx @snikket_im You might want to use more lightweight servers if you're using a free tier (?), like Dendrite for Matrix (not sure how stable/ready this is yet) and Pleroma, Hometown, Honk (single user), Epicyon for Fedi.
       
 (DIR) Post #AP252USMnO8yX9q8no by straw@rdrama.cc
       2022-10-28T17:11:11.294312Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @bill @aslmx @snikket_im honk is garbage
       
 (DIR) Post #AP257abrLVUz46iBTE by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-28T17:12:06Z
       
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       @straw @aslmx @snikket_im @bill It's minimal
       
 (DIR) Post #AP258pkMYH3KImHYum by Hyolobrika@berserker.town
       2022-10-28T17:12:19Z
       
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       @straw @aslmx @snikket_im @bill Some people like that. Idk
       
 (DIR) Post #AP28tA75SfpoePh66y by waifu@waifuism.life
       2022-10-28T17:54:14.168799Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @bill @aslmx @snikket_im misskey is cool
       
 (DIR) Post #AP8weCU3UGEBqq4d8K by bill@mastodon.sdf.org
       2022-11-01T00:40:05Z
       
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       @Hyolobrika @aslmx @snikket_im Thanks for all the options there. Trying to find out what might be the best lightweight Mastodon compatible package for a few personal accounts. I'd really like to get this on my own domain.