Post AOmqBuiHQ9ZoEpdnSy by vorpuni@berserker.town
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(DIR) Post #AOmosuaVYxNKORNg7k by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:20:29Z
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i swear to god, computers get progressively slower as they get older...
(DIR) Post #AOmosuxu9y5fZ0KMam by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T08:29:20.801611Z
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@thor no the OS gets progressively fatter most of the time. A great example is Windows 10's biannual updates. System requirements (especially in practice) have increased considerably since Windows 10 1507 to 22H2, but there's very few new features users actually care about.macOS gets worse and worse as well.Even Linux desktop environments are guilty of this lately, albeit usually to a lesser degree, and at least you can switch to something like XFCE if you really want to.
(DIR) Post #AOmoyfI5LllIggVVTM by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T08:30:32.234905Z
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@thor We live in a world where a computer's featureset can decrese considerably because the software rapidly gets worse.In 2017 you could've bought a low-end computer that was capable of playing 1080p video. But now in 2022 it suddenly struggles with 720p for no apparent reason, assuming you kept it updated.
(DIR) Post #AOmqBuiHQ9ZoEpdnSy by vorpuni@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:32:42Z
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@quadIf you stick to simple software on Linux it may still get slower considering how fat the kernel is nowadays. For pure useable performance even OpenBSD is a contender nowadays! FreeBSD is great if you only need what it can do (so not many games and not all the fancy graphical stuff)@thor
(DIR) Post #AOmqBvAHk1yhdgkA7M by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T08:44:06.692970Z
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@vorpuni @thor Yes, linux isn't immune, far from it. Every OS gets more complex. Linux just lets you help negate it somewhat if you run something like XFCE or Mate which are rather low in terms of userland bloat.On Linux you can negate it by compling a custom kernel, but frankly just about nobody bothers to do that.
(DIR) Post #AOmqIYWqIhENSfSTq4 by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:31:04Z
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@quad yeah, software bloat is definitely increasing. my MacBook basically got slower when i upgraded the OS.
(DIR) Post #AOmqIYyUdtLgqQOYwC by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:31:47Z
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@quad some of the software that ran smoothly before is struggling more now and the whole system feels laggier.
(DIR) Post #AOmqIZNf8JTw6UAfAW by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:32:53Z
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@quad it's stupid because my computer was powerful enough when i bought it, yet now software upgrades is making it less usable, yet my needs didn't change, so it's entirely pointless.
(DIR) Post #AOmqIZgnz8nJ3r7x0S by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T08:45:18.784876Z
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@thor I feel like there was an insanely huge spike in software inefficiency once desktop web apps became a thing.Everything is now a full web browser that expects to run in the background and consume like half a gig of ram and a few percent of the CPU, even if it's just a basic chat app or something
(DIR) Post #AOmqRWfwYmsOJtzbDU by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:45:09Z
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@quad @vorpuni i remember being a Slackware user and routinely compiling my own kernels, but that's a long time ago
(DIR) Post #AOmqRX8eq1qRkxQWyO by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T08:46:55.823273Z
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@thor @vorpuni [obligatory "install gentoo" joke here]
(DIR) Post #AOmqhTMede5qgTZexU by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2022-10-21T08:49:49.925569Z
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@quad @thor (psst, it's mostly security mitigations because current tech sucks)
(DIR) Post #AOmqvFHBoZ9b2paM0O by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:51:11Z
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@xerz @quad ah, yes, i remember when using antivirus was common, but it slowed down your system
(DIR) Post #AOmqvFm1xtp8aU0z4q by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2022-10-21T08:52:17.410404Z
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@thor @quad the easiest way to optimize Windows is STILL disabling Defender, the I/O bottleneck it creates on slower CPUs and drives is simply too much
(DIR) Post #AOmrM53vthGlBaBGMa by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:54:29Z
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@xerz @quad so they still use hooks on I/O? i remember third party antivirus solutions getting worse.with DOS and Windows 3.x, the antivirus would literally prevent programs from doing bad stuff and you'd get a warning screen that halted the entire system.with later antiviruses that i tried using, they'd only detect a problem later on, which seemed inferior.
(DIR) Post #AOmrM5UAKAFkUwSDFg by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2022-10-21T08:57:08.642414Z
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@thor @quad yep, and it also comes out with serious bugs from time to time https://www.techpowerup.com/295877/windows-defender-can-significantly-impact-intel-cpu-performance-we-have-the-fix
(DIR) Post #AOmtK5jcct0sbHrMUS by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T09:19:12.453803Z
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@xerz @thor if every app wasn't bundling an entire darn web browser, maybe they wouldn't need so many security mitigations
(DIR) Post #AOmtOYYXPZjf97nvAe by xerz@fedi.xerz.one
2022-10-21T09:20:02.289098Z
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@quad @thor pretty sure kernels would still have to retpoline the hell out of your system tho
(DIR) Post #AOmtRukRMIqWqGyMbI by quad@weeaboo.space
2022-10-21T09:20:37.400160Z
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@xerz @thor Windows Defender is extreme. If you think the consumer version is bad, you don't want to see how painfully slow our computers are with a fair bit of Defender ATP slapped ontop.
(DIR) Post #AOmz1lIsRyqzkJzdAm by thor@berserker.town
2022-10-21T08:50:11Z
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@quad @vorpuni Slackware was very good for learning how Linux works. on paper, it had a package manager, but so many things were missing from it that compiling your own stuff was going to happen on a pretty regular basis.