Post AOTHuPrAYKITMCCx96 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
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(DIR) Post #AO98CnZxM4SPzKlsW0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-02T04:56:04Z
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#TIL about the Third Room project:'Introducing an open, standards-based, decentralised vision of the metaverse for the open Web, built entirely on Matrix… without cryptocurrencies, NFTs or walled gardens."https://thirdroom.io/#ThirdRoom #matrix
(DIR) Post #AO9HnNCVI5doTnJfxw by lunch@cybre.space
2022-10-02T06:44:14Z
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@strypey doing that on top of matrix seems a little yikes...
(DIR) Post #AO9LpwvJqR79fSlK7M by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-02T07:30:01Z
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@lunch What would you suggest using instead?
(DIR) Post #AO9M5JGr2Y0DJw9xr6 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-02T07:30:11Z
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@lunch What would you suggest using instead?
(DIR) Post #AO9MFNCrGLZkQF5aG8 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-02T07:34:41Z
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Keeping in mind that the Third Room preview is a very early prototype. My first attempt to try it out failed, because I tried it on a mobile browser. As it says on the front page of the website, those aren't supported yet. Second attempt failed as my Trisquel 9 system apparently doesn't support WebGL2. Maybe this Vista-era laptop doesnt have hardware acceleration, or maybe the free code graphics driver doesn't support it?#Trisquel #WebGL
(DIR) Post #AO9MXVT1HwMfFrIMV6 by mvz@mastodon.social
2022-10-02T07:37:53Z
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@strypey They seem to equate an M1 MacBook Pro with a 'typical modern laptop', so Vista-era is probably way too old.
(DIR) Post #AO9htlG5M4mJdghMES by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-02T11:37:09Z
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@kayeThere's been a few free code MMORPG game engines. I can't remember coming across anything that works in a decentralized way like this though. It seems sensible to build on top of a tested federation protocol, which can already handle concepts like persistent rooms independent of any one server.
(DIR) Post #AOABHeZsk6gcXXhdx2 by lunch@cybre.space
2022-10-02T17:06:26Z
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@strypey I'm not sure how it's being used there but it seems strange to me to use it for a realtime game given how clunky matrix is
(DIR) Post #AOAfRy0YLzpUK30oAS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-02T22:44:29Z
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@lunch> how clunky matrix isNot sure what you mean. Are you talking about the UX of Element (or some other matrix client), the server performance of Synapse, or the functioning of the federation protocol itself?
(DIR) Post #AOBHDbYMq5t4suPIY4 by lunch@cybre.space
2022-10-03T05:46:56Z
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@strypey like, all of it honestlyI still use it every day but there's so much more I wish it could be but struggles to due to legacy and architectural limitations
(DIR) Post #AOBSyQz13VWpCxP876 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-03T07:59:25Z
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@lunch I just read this recent update today. Sounds like a lot of progress has been made in the last year or so:https://matrix.org/blog/2022/08/15/the-matrix-summer-special-2022/#matryoshka-voip-embedding
(DIR) Post #AOBTEL1wxHjtNaMOZs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-03T07:59:44Z
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@lunch I just read this recent update today. Sounds like a lot of progress has been made in the last year or so:https://matrix.org/blog/2022/08/15/the-matrix-summer-special-2022/
(DIR) Post #AOBypTxBq4UuLdKEVM by lunch@cybre.space
2022-10-03T13:56:16Z
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@strypey have they fixed the weirdness with the event format? the abstraction layers are not cleanly separated (because json everything) so there's leaky abstractions that get in the way of implementing the protocol efficiently, look at the effort the ruma people are having to go through
(DIR) Post #AODCIv5PX5GtSTUvGS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-04T04:01:59Z
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@lunchQuestions about protocol implementation are well beyond my paygrade :D Maybe ask the Ruma people?
(DIR) Post #AODCb8gfheuOqyc7aS by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-04T04:04:44Z
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@lunchQuestions about protocol implementation are well beyond my paygrade :D Maybe ask the Ruma people? I'm still interested to know what you'd suggest using instead as a federation protocol for a decentralized metaverse.
(DIR) Post #AOS3wC1jLhFiWn8o7s by ademalsasa@floss.social
2022-10-11T08:06:14Z
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@strypey hey, this reminded me to Second Life. Am I correct?
(DIR) Post #AOTHhA2Q3QsUX39KYi by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-11T22:17:55Z
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@ademalsasaLike a decentralized version of it, yes. Second Life was kind of the FB of virtual reality worlds.
(DIR) Post #AOTHuPrAYKITMCCx96 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-11T22:18:05Z
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@ademalsasaLike a decentralized version of it, yes. Second Life was kind of the FB of virtual reality worlds.
(DIR) Post #AOVZghxocXt6x6qkC0 by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-13T00:48:51Z
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Thanks for the link @alienghic . OpenSimulator could become part of Third Room by implementing the matrix-based federation standard that links Third Room servers into a decentralized network. Maybe they're already working on that?@ademalsasa #OpenSimulator #ThirdRoom
(DIR) Post #AOVZvCCkyxPonUkM9g by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-10-13T00:49:37Z
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Thanks for the links @alienghic . OpenSimulator and Mozilla Hubs could become part of Third Room by implementing the matrix-based federation standard that links Third Room servers into a decentralized network. Maybe they're already working on that?@ademalsasa #OpenSimulator #ThirdRoom #MozillaHubs
(DIR) Post #APjzWTCjLmaB5E6wYC by kaye@octodon.social
2022-10-02T10:02:22Z
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@strypey Wasn't OpenSimulator supposed to be something like this, for a hot second, back in the 2010s? Though being built on Matrix seems pretty big, if it works
(DIR) Post #APjzWTr8vWuP6Z1DXc by DrWhoZee@troet.cafe
2022-11-18T11:23:30Z
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@kaye @strypey it was and it is, still exists …
(DIR) Post #APjzWUOSvdZ0lubpTs by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-18T21:36:21Z
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@DrWhoZeeIndeed. Apparently one of the biggest problems for OpenSimulator is Empty World Syndrome. A new user experiences it as a set of unconnected ghost cities, huge virtual spaces with few if any other users in them. Hopefully the OS devs are looking into working with the Third Room folks, to bring it all together in a unified metaverse, based on open standards.@kaye
(DIR) Post #APjzc6pnQyCXRS4ZOa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-18T21:37:38Z
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@kaye @DrWhoZeeApparently one of the biggest problems for OpenSimulator is Empty World Syndrome. A new user experiences it as a set of unconnected ghost cities, huge virtual spaces with few if any other users in them. Hopefully the OS devs are looking into working with the Third Room folks, to bring it all together in a unified metaverse, based on open standards.#OpenSimulator #ThirdRoom #matrix #MetaVerse
(DIR) Post #APjzgaEA5rHPlEbRKa by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-18T21:37:47Z
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@kaye @DrWhoZeeApparently one of the biggest problems for OpenSimulator is Empty World Syndrome. A new user experiences it as a set of unconnected ghost cities, huge virtual spaces with few if any other users in them. Hopefully the OS devs are looking into working with the Third Room folks, to bring it all together in a unified metaverse, based on open standards.#OpenSimulator #ThirdRoom #matrix #MetaVerse