Post ANgkaS8JCYCpHC9DBA by levi@fosstodon.org
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(DIR) Post #ANgUyMNYeENj77ero0 by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T09:25:55Z
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As a rather moderately-opinioned Free Software user who have used it for quite a long time before, I never thought I'd say this, but uh...Wow, GNOME sucks nowadays. What the hell happened to it.
(DIR) Post #ANgVGOoqJYVFtV1RYG by neglesaks@mstdn.io
2022-09-18T09:29:14Z
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@kzimmermann They decided to make PCs into Tablets.
(DIR) Post #ANgVij4UbsPEoXqjjs by pleiades@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T09:34:18Z
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@kzimmermann Yeah, really horrible design choices IMO.
(DIR) Post #ANgVyjKPQIZCFAvSGu by silhouette@lainchan.gay
2022-09-18T09:37:16.568351Z
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@kzimmermann i like it. it’s not a classic desktop metaphor but it keeps you focused, supports multi touch gestures and is quite extensible (libappindicator, arch update indicator and gtile are a must IMO). but i can understand if people prefer traditional UI/UX
(DIR) Post #ANgYKc9qxjVIHiYF4y by jrballesteros05@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T10:03:25Z
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@kzimmermann Their philosophy "I break stuffs and I don't give a shit about your opinion" it's what really annoys me from them. The desktop is irrelevant to me and I don't use it.
(DIR) Post #ANgkQcpoYeYTZToLIm by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:18:20Z
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@silhouette interestingly, I'm not as bothered by the "non-Desktop" approach of it - similar to getting used to things like tiling WMs. It's that "let's do everything our way and silently fail all other attempts" attitude that drove me away. And I used to use GNOME3 for a while way back - no problems back there.But hey, I think it would be the same experience with KDE.
(DIR) Post #ANgkaS8JCYCpHC9DBA by levi@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T11:01:01Z
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@silhouette @kzimmermann yeah I dig it. Totally understand why it's not for everyone but I find it quite minimal and it just stays out of the way.
(DIR) Post #ANgkaScnNCamnkPYhM by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:20:51Z
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@levi "minimal" is certainly not the word I'd use to describe GNOME. Modern? Yup. Stays out of the way? Maybe, whatever that means. But minimal? Ehh, nah.@silhouette
(DIR) Post #ANgkre9ZlMcNTowH9U by levi@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:23:48Z
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@kzimmermann @silhouette let's not get into subjective debate about semantics. totally fine that you don't like gnome, no big deal.
(DIR) Post #ANgkt8Qmg331fphJkO by mike@micro.mkp.ca
2022-09-18T12:01:18.210769Z
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@kzimmermann It’s so hard to get a desktop environment that doesn’t suck!! My last machine had pages of custom lisp just to make the stupid window manager work with modern apps but I didn’t move it over and I’m just running stock KDE now. And as much as it sucks, wow, it’s so much better than GNOME.
(DIR) Post #ANgkt8s52Ysl2UT7IG by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:24:19Z
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@mike agreed with your first statement. I guess it's not so much "GNOME" specifically that I don't like, but any Desktop Environment in general. Having learned to set up and do anything with minimalist WMs has probably made my workflow very specific, too.
(DIR) Post #ANglMzEjQUErqTIKRc by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:29:43Z
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@levi sure. But also try other standalone WMs someday when you get a chance. It was quite an eye-opening experience, though you do have to spend a while customizing things like the looks for many of them.@silhouette
(DIR) Post #ANglaTp90y6OTUlDGa by zudlig@expired.mentality.rip
2022-09-18T12:23:20.890641Z
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@mike @kzimmermann I think GNOME started going wrong sometime around 2003 when Miguel de Icaza had mono. At least we still have XFCE.
(DIR) Post #ANglaUIDGtM1veMQZk by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:31:47Z
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@zudlig I didn't get to use it from *that* long ago, but I remember the last releases of GNOME2 and the early GNOME3 transition. I thought it was pretty good, if not the best environment out there. But coming back to it in 2022 was like, holy crap am I disappointed. How was it before Icaza?@mike
(DIR) Post #ANglnan8Q8Z5qh4aVU by levi@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T12:34:31Z
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@kzimmermann @silhouette I used KDE for several years as a daily driver, presently prefer xfce on virtual machines.I've somehow lost interest in trying all the things.
(DIR) Post #ANhCwdmlM7cKVGRDhQ by niclas@angrytoday.com
2022-09-18T17:38:41Z
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@jrballesteros05 Checked out Gnome in 2001 or so... Never looked back, although for some bizarre reason Chromium on my laptop required gnome-desktop something, which I took away. But Chromium-based Brave on the same machine is fine without it.Is it DRM related? Netflix allows Chromium but not my Brave on that computer.@kzimmermann
(DIR) Post #ANhIchivbUMieOWNCy by jrballesteros05@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T18:42:20Z
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@niclas @kzimmermann I had a similar issue with Librewolf (Firefox's fork) and Firefox, Netflix didn't work with Librewolf and I just used an extension that changes the user-agent to Firefox and it worked. I don't know if brave is the same but I guess that it should work.
(DIR) Post #ANhQm4Mdaz3V6m4V4i by kzimmermann@fosstodon.org
2022-09-18T20:13:38Z
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@jrballesteros05 @niclas there was once a time when I was installing a package in FreeBSD and I swear I saw somewhere gnome-desktop as a dependency in the pipeline. I needed that package so I was like "ehh screw it." But after installing it, I could verify with `pkg info` that it was only a "collection of APIs" and was just 3.5 MB in size...