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(DIR) Post #AM7vTS0QW2dWetguMi by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T19:15:55Z
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The following image contains all the feedback I got on yesterdays weekly update on the birdsite:#thismakesmewanttoquit
(DIR) Post #AM7vxF4XASNREUolhA by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T19:21:18Z
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I mean, yes, I get it. @purism's refund policy (and how it changed it) is just bad. And it's beyond me how some people who ordered in 2017 seem not to have received their orders yet, while orders from mid 2018 are being shipped.But: Why would anyone keep developing so much software for a hardware scam, seriously?
(DIR) Post #AM7zLibhJDONe7h0Xg by UPPERKEES@mastodon.social
2022-08-02T19:59:21Z
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@linmob Fairphone seems like an honorable company to align with. Maybe focus on them?
(DIR) Post #AM7zRdNBgKqn9Oj6NU by itsmcb@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T20:00:26Z
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@linmob @purism I haven't bought one of their products myself, but as an outsider, I constantly see them being slammed for things. I hope that Purism will apologize for the shipping delays and gave an accurate shipment roadmap (with a priority for older purchases). They really need to move past this so the conversation can go back to the device itself.
(DIR) Post #AM7zv1fcQMC6uBMY40 by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T20:05:44Z
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@UPPERKEES I am focused on mainline Linux and also try to cover halium, too, but I totally won't refocus on Android. As of now, Fairphone is mainly an Android manufacturer, so ... Nope.
(DIR) Post #AM803vnVd0UjIVIe00 by stefan@ak.lightnovel-dungeon.de
2022-08-02T19:47:54.846948Z
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@linmob You know they don't do themselves any favors whatsoever with the Librem USA which is $2000 but has a way shorter lead time (like a bit more than 30 days compared to literal years) even if you order one today. You can make good software all you want but man their management sure sucks really hard and destroys a lot of trust in them. They are in luck that they sit in america. In the EU they would have been sued ages ago for their policy change alone. I just don't care if do anything good software related anymore. I just want my money back they hold hostage for years. And its real to call them out as long as they don't do a thing. Like either refund or ship the damn things
(DIR) Post #AM803wNJTt8P5Y3Eo4 by stefan@ak.lightnovel-dungeon.de
2022-08-02T19:49:35.029821Z
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@linmob Also that post may come of as more harsh as really needed. But doing some cheap software work compared to the literal millions in investor money and pre-orders seems to be worthwhile for a scam for sure
(DIR) Post #AM803wzFCrTYzBnWvg by lazarus@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T19:54:54Z
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@stefan That policy and refund thing surely sounds bad. But doing software work is not cheap in any way. @linmob
(DIR) Post #AM803xdembnn0Whnv6 by stefan@ak.lightnovel-dungeon.de
2022-08-02T20:02:34.356429Z
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@lazarus I mean sure software work does cost money. But how much exactly. Developing the phone likely ate more than that. I just wish purism would have had better foresight really. They have good devs but terrible PR really. Maybe it would have been wise for them doing software first and with the likes of pine64 or someone else, get to software in a good spot and then turn into making their own stuff. Also working with pine would surely gave them better access to the manufacturers in china. But yeah hindsight is easy I know. But just following what they did with laptop might been a good idea.
(DIR) Post #AM803yAymiSOfsIPrM by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T20:07:18Z
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@stefan Just for context: When did you order your Librem 5?
(DIR) Post #AM809aJsOaLiQF8R2e by UPPERKEES@mastodon.social
2022-08-02T20:08:22Z
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@linmob you can perhaps work on PostMarketOS for Fairphone? I mean that FP probably would support choice. Their hardware platform is also amazing due to modularity and sustainability.
(DIR) Post #AM8162FwgaWRrVAT3I by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T20:18:56Z
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@UPPERKEES I am a Business Administration major... I can pull off websites like linmob.net and linuxphoneapps.org, and do what I do for these websites, but that's basically it. I've never worked on the kernel (or any other bit of C code), and ... while I could in theory aquire those skills, I just don't have the time working full time in a job I do like. Also, learning new things in the (still) mid thirties takes longer than it used to.
(DIR) Post #AM86pUFDyKXVT6K4ZM by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T21:23:10Z
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@UPPERKEES Don't get me wrong: Fairphone's goals align with mine (a lot). There's just not enough OS overlap (yet) 🙂
(DIR) Post #AM8HXbGIF5rJW0UpG4 by kop316@fosstodon.org
2022-08-02T23:23:09Z
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@linmob Hopefully it only makes you want to quit the bird site.... You would be missed here!
(DIR) Post #AM8hyeAy761HBEYyzQ by petrisch@social.librem.one
2022-08-03T04:19:25Z
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@linmob I like the funny part with 'do your research'. I mean telling that you, really?
(DIR) Post #AM8nBUzO53VUDu5sUi by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-03T05:17:45Z
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@kop316 Actually, it makes me want to automate much more of the Weekly Update‘s creation process - the alternative to this would be discontinuing it at the end of 2022.
(DIR) Post #AM8paAeX1lzyIbENlY by dylanvanassche@fosstodon.org
2022-08-03T05:44:36Z
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@linmob @kop316 That's some troll account, they keep pasting this text everywhere.We all really appreciate your updates!
(DIR) Post #AM8qCC87z1A1swCndA by Regenerate@mastodon.social
2022-08-03T05:51:30Z
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@linmob Personally I look forward to your updates I am really looking forward to Ubuntu touch suppport for Fairphone 4Like more exited than waiting for the latest iPhoneIn my dark apple fanboy daysGlad those days are over
(DIR) Post #AM8smycFOK44auxbU0 by hamblingreen@fosstodon.org
2022-08-03T06:20:34Z
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@linmob @kop316 how would this automation work? i'd imagine a script that compiled new articles titles and links from rss feeds into a formatted weekly update, categorizing each feed under gnome, plasma, firmware, etc based on the feed. then you could manually rearrange any articles that fell outside of its assumed category and add commentary. semi-automated? maybe a bit less work? i could get working on something like that. just an idea
(DIR) Post #AM8yMi2H0sBXMqzYTQ by dimitrisk@mastodon.technology
2022-08-03T07:23:02Z
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@linmob @kop316 Your work is much appreciated, your blog, app list and socials are a kind of hub that connect the #mobilelinux communities together. I hope that you find a way to keep linmob alive and thriving.
(DIR) Post #AM9IPHYvtWXFDLlwZc by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-03T11:07:35Z
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@hamblingreen All I would need is some RSS/Atom reader that allows categorization of feeds (ideally including sub-categories), has favorites (to select favorite feeds) and (now comes the part my current feed reader Miniflux does not have/I did not manage to set up) supports exporting favorites (or easily opening them in a browser) and mass "de-favoriting" (for after the weekly update).
(DIR) Post #AM9XCA7Vkh5pgF9Efo by kop316@fosstodon.org
2022-08-03T13:53:19Z
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@linmob I think that makes sense. While you probably couldn't automate everything, you could probably automate a large portion of it.
(DIR) Post #AMAx7vNrOKCgmhOY4G by hamblingreen@fosstodon.org
2022-08-04T06:18:36Z
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@linmob i looked up miniflux, and i can see how its minimal design is appealing. but with a quick search i found QuiteRSS, which seems to have the features you need at the cost of a heavier desktop application. i'll keep looking for a lighter-weight option and i'll do some testing on my end.
(DIR) Post #AMJZMgZ0kepX8AAo4m by UPPERKEES@mastodon.social
2022-08-08T10:04:44Z
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@linmob Android is Linux as well. If our goal is to make Linux on mobile go mainstream, then let's not ignore this fact. The more people say Android is not Linux, but this buggy and UI mess of an OS *is* Linux, the more resistance there will be.A feasible transition from Android to a more pure open Linux OS would be a consistent open launcher and browser that supports PWA. Then the UI experience is the same and no dependency on an app store.In any case, we need Android, let's not bash it.
(DIR) Post #AMJcLgi91BPRA0f3kO by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-08-08T10:38:11.990214Z
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@UPPERKEES >Android is Linux as well.Please don't fall for the trap of saying doublespeak like; "Android uses Linux, but isn't Linux".Android uses the kernel, Linux, but instead of using GNU (or BusyBox), it uses libraries from google.It's very easy to differentiate between GNU/Linux and Android, but that seems to be too correct for people, who instead prefer to name the whole OS after a kernel.>If our goal is to make Linux on mobile go mainstreamThat is quite a shallow goal, as you'll most likely take easy shortcuts like accepting a bunch of proprietary software, thus gaining little.>A feasible transition from Android to a more pure open Linux OSThere actually does exist a free version of Android: https://www.replicant.us/ the drawbacks are the limited number of devices supported and how the mobile chipset is still nonfree."Linux OS" is a huge oxymoron, I can point out solid evidence proving this if you doubt my word.>we need Android, let's not bash it.There are current a few BusyBox/Linux tracking devices available, so we don't strictly need Android tracking devices anymore.
(DIR) Post #AMJxvxRiNCN6We72B6 by UPPERKEES@mastodon.social
2022-08-08T12:22:59Z
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@Suiseiseki Android is great and we should advertise it as Linux. If people realize they are Linux users already, they might try out more Linux stuff. That's what I'm trying to say.So let's include Android in mobile Linux news. While also making other projects known and say why a fully open source OS, built on open standards, has benefits.Otherwise we'll be forever stuck at a ~1% desktop adoption and even less on mobile devices (when talking about truly open Linux OSs).
(DIR) Post #AMJxvxpSwtN1iJE0CO by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-08-08T14:40:03.379818Z
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@UPPERKEES >GNU/Linux doesn't make any senseYou're right, there's no reason to mention Linux, as it's not really that relevant - it's only included in the name out of respect - we should call it just GNU.>GNU is user space.Sure, but Linux will panic() on boot without userspace: https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/init/main.c#n1550 - which makes userspace just as important as kernel space.>Should I also say I'm using GNOME/Firefox/GNU/Linux?If you feel like that's what your system is, you should call it by that name.You don't need to mention GNU if you feel like something else is more important, for example; systemd/Linux.>Torvalds also said something similar, which of course upset the GNU developers.Can you quote specifically to what he said and what the context was?From the start, Linus wrote that Linux was only a kernel, which needed to be combined with other software to work (see the first few Linux release notes if you don't believe me).Linus has semi-recently sold out, so he's chosen to not comment on this topic much (as the proprietary masters would really prefer if you called it just Linux and "open source"), but even when he knowingly made an incorrect statement about "the kind of Linux", he still implied that you needed to mention the distribution name, as just Linux isn't a suitable name.>we shouldn't exclude Android as a non-Linux OSYes, we shouldn't say that Android doesn't contain Linux, as it does.>Yeah, we get it, Linux is the OSLinux isn't the OS, as it's only a kernel. The combination of Linux and other software makes the OS.>If we want Linux adoption, then let's stop being purists.I don't want Linux adoption, I want GNU adoption, but I don't mind if that particular kernel is used, but I recommend using the version that doesn't contain proprietary malware (GNU Linux-libre).>We only scare people away with that complexity and confusion.If people are scared away from simply noting that the OS is GNU/Linux, and was written to give the users freedom, we unfortunately cannot help them.>Android is great and we should advertise it as Linux.It is fine to mention that Android uses Linux as its kernel, but Android is Android.>If people realize they are Linux users already, they might try out more Linux stuff. This is really a nonsensical statement.Android users cannot possibly use more of Linux, as they're already using all of it.Android users can install BusyBox, GNU and/or the huge amount free software programs and try those out though.>fully open source OS, built on open standards, has benefits.Android is not "open source" or built on "open standards".Every single Android install is either full of proprietary software, or relies on proprietary software to function (google play services, google cr...apps, mobile chipset, firmware for wifi and touchscreen etc).Even the so called "Android Open Source Project" is almost impossible to get to compile without running proprietary software and most likely contains proprietary software (as I'm pretty sure it contains webview, which bundles a number of proprietary programs).As for standards, Android doesn't really bother with those, but I guess google at least publishes them.>we'll be forever stuck at a ~1% desktop adoptionYou really cannot trust the reported marketshare percentage, as such reporting seems to be based off useragents of people that visit normie sites.Popularity is of little interest to me, as I only interested in users who join looking for freedom and not users who join, looking of proprietary software.>even less on mobile devices (when talking about truly open Linux OSs).Linux contains proprietary software out of the box, so it's not "open source".If Linux didn't contain such malware, it would be free software, as it's licensed under the GPLv2.
(DIR) Post #AMK2Pzlwgj4YFE9awi by UPPERKEES@mastodon.social
2022-08-08T14:49:37Z
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@Suiseiseki The point is, we need to warm up people to using Linux. Not make them feel they use something that's only for geeks/nerds. Keeping the system open is vital for many reasons. But let's not waste this opportunity to tell billions of people they are using Linux. Android will likely use Fuchsia in the near future...
(DIR) Post #AMK2Q0Bp8VlxXUGGHY by Suiseiseki@freesoftwareextremist.com
2022-08-08T15:30:17.803905Z
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@UPPERKEES >I skimmed through what you typedPlease read what I wrote in full.Skimming through it will not give you the right idea.>You rather want to fight a losing battle convincing people of purist thoughtsThe proprietary software companies say we're losing, but we're winning - the war is far from over though.I will not falter, nor surrender, no matter how much copying and seething the proprietary software companies do.100% purity is preferred, but not strictly required - I just prefer a minimal level of willingness to learn.>we need to warm up people to using LinuxWe're very warm to newcomers when it comes to using GNU/Linux.All the information and software is right there, in an easy to read and install manner.We just don't shy of telling the truth - that the OS was written so the user could have freedom, unlike the shallow ideals of Linus, who says it's; "open source and was written just for fun".>Not make them feel they use something that's only for geeks/nerds.We aren't afraid of making people feel uncomfortable, if that's what it takes to get them to learn the correct information from the start - for example that "geeks/nerds" is just coping against people with actual skills.>let's not waste this opportunity to tell billions of people they are using LinuxI'm not sure how useful it is to elevate the ideals and state of Android.I reckon that how the fact that GNU/Linux is used on most computers that actually matter and 1 billion+ Android devices use the same kernel (less GNU) GNU typically does is just a small point to make.
(DIR) Post #AMKAFfyAG8rzZ3SXaK by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-08T16:58:03Z
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@UPPERKEES I acknowledge that Android runs a Linux kernel. But, frankly, I am just not interested in Android very much these days. Yes, you can make it somewhat privacy requesting and run (almost fully) open source ROMs (when you're willing to ignore some vendor blobs); but the reality of that is that the ecosystem (at least in the "west") is just too much built around Google services. I've just seen too many people try to make it without GAPPS and eventually give up for some service.
(DIR) Post #AMKAKOyerYMOJQwZX6 by linmob@fosstodon.org
2022-08-08T16:58:55Z
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@UPPERKEES Therefore, I just avoid it as a topic for my blog - for my own sanity.