Post AM6KuK46FxlcO5OpyS by klardotsh@merveilles.town
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 (DIR) Post #AM6KuK46FxlcO5OpyS by klardotsh@merveilles.town
       2022-08-01T23:25:52Z
       
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       Longer term back of mind item: my current bulk data storage array is a ZFS mirror+special-mirror (2x 16TB spinners + 2x 1TB SSD) that was built in 2021. Moving aboard in winter will make spinning disks tricky (keeping them running 24/7 is simply not doable due to the swaying and rocking of a boat) meaning they'll have to be relegated to backup/ultra-high-latency/"cold" storage purposes (retrieval times up to a week, in horrible weather)So I now need to figure out a new "hot" bulk data store :|
       
 (DIR) Post #AM6KuKzsn7zJHIQz2W by kai@ajin.la
       2022-08-01T23:46:02Z
       
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       @klardotsh I guess I have too much faith in engineering to think a hard drive would be fine, or I haven't been on a small enough/rough enough boat 😅 how much are you willing to spend on this problem? https://www.samsung.com/us/computing/memory-storage/solid-state-drives/870-qvo-sata-iii-2-5-ssd-8tb-mz-77q8t0b-am/
       
 (DIR) Post #AM6KuLjy1mqpaDzms4 by epic@gleasonator.com
       2022-08-02T00:51:30.378827Z
       
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       That's cheap for 8tb of SSD! I moved a program I use every day all day (The Brain) from my SSD drive to a regular disc drive and it is sooo slow now it cause usage problems (giant database). That doesn't mean I can afford a +1tb SSD.Add the rocking boat of the OP, he's already used to paying more for everything so it will work there, especially if he's on saltwater.Don't you think that's a crazy cheap price for an 8tb SSD?
       
 (DIR) Post #AM6KuOO6BY8nnGmrhY by klardotsh@merveilles.town
       2022-08-01T23:27:50Z
       
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       The low-tech solution to this is probably to do what I do for my phone: copy files over to a SSD that I want constant access to, and just deal with the cold store lookup times as weather allows.This, however, means that keeping up with YouTube channels (which I pull with yt-dlp straight to that archive array) will become more tricky: the "these videos have already been downloaded" list will need to live on the hot storage, and the videos written to *both*, one of which might be offline...
       
 (DIR) Post #AM6KuPois322E8Fdq4 by klardotsh@merveilles.town
       2022-08-01T23:28:49Z
       
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       ZFS nerds: is there a way to do stuff like this all in ZFS?Otherwise, a mark-and-sweep "glacier-ifier" might be on my winter TODO list: the ability to mark a file as "done" on "hot" storage, and whenever cold storage comes back online, it'll be already queued up for moving over (via rsync or NFS).
       
 (DIR) Post #AM6LvPxdvB2muuSv20 by kai@ajin.la
       2022-08-02T00:53:36Z
       
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       @epic @klardotsh my first hard drive was 1GB, so pretty much everything is amazing.But considering recent SSD prices, it's about half of what I would expect.
       
 (DIR) Post #AM6LvRV0CdK3gf54fQ by epic@gleasonator.com
       2022-08-02T01:02:53.688820Z
       
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       My first hard drive after the audio cassette for a floppy was 1mb, which was amazing because not only that one, but the 10mb also fit on a desk. The salesman told me the 10mb was for giant corporations to store 10 years worth of data.The only 10mb hard drive I had seen before that was delivered into the computer room at the college I attended via forklift, about the size at the base a large refrigerator is now and about 1/3 as tall. The top was clear so you could see the giant disks spinning inside. Impressive technology!And people wonder where the Y2K problem came from. No one would store a four-digit year when a two-digit year would suffice.