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(DIR) Post #ALcPEuNeXED8A8wwPQ by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-07-18T14:18:23Z
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Which came first in web browsers, history or bookmarks? Does the existence of the former obviate the need for the latter?#web #www #WebBrowser #bookmarks
(DIR) Post #ALcQqDopKJKT7O154S by jackyan@mastodon.social
2022-07-18T14:36:16Z
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@strypey I think you could see the last few pages you surfed to in the early Netscapes. Canʼt fully recall!
(DIR) Post #ALcZ4jiALZ47icKh5U by stevefoerster@mastodon.oeru.org
2022-07-18T16:08:31Z
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@strypey I don't remember, and hell no, respectively.
(DIR) Post #ALcps0RMXIS73hzMQq by aktivismoEstasMiaLuo@activism.openworlds.info
2022-07-18T19:16:49Z
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@strypey Bookmarks support parameters for string substitution and keywords (history does not). Bookmarks can also be removed selectively. Whereas with history if you want to remove 1 record I suspect you must remove all (all or nothing).
(DIR) Post #ALcxroBGuqkefasZ8K by aRubes@tooot.im
2022-07-18T20:46:23Z
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@strypey NCSA Mosaic had bookmarks before history. Its predecessors did not include bookmarks but I'm not sure if they had history
(DIR) Post #ALfG9WoC5EkgdTeOYq by billstclair@impeccable.social
2022-07-18T14:26:17.487098Z
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@strypey I don’t know which came first, but history is no substitute for bookmarks: it’s too long to find anything and contains a lot that you’ll never want to see again.
(DIR) Post #ALfG9Z73W51nmYUUEq by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-07-19T23:20:35Z
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@billstclairTo find things in history you just start typing in the address bar. In the browsers I use I can even combine a base URL with a keyword or two to find specific pages I've mentioned on a site.
(DIR) Post #ALfPurwiDCpTOFHdwm by billstclair@impeccable.social
2022-07-20T01:10:26.866596Z
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@strypey True. I use that, too, when I can think of a subset of what I'm looking for. Often, my short term memory is so blasted that I can't even do that, absent-minded professor brain.
(DIR) Post #ALwtHOaOFuhsLEDAzw by scribe@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-07-18T15:02:18Z
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@jackyan @strypey I remember having both way back when I started, in Netscape certainly. I can check my Mosaic manual later on though ;)
(DIR) Post #ALwtHPONG4gmqFb5uK by jackyan@mastodon.social
2022-07-18T21:21:22Z
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@scribe @strypey Awesome, thank you, it would be fun to know!
(DIR) Post #ALwtHPudK8UeSIgrBo by scribe@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-07-22T09:38:27Z
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@jackyan @strypey So it looks like Mosaic versions (there were several) tended to have a rudimentary "Hotlist" functionality - some had in-built editors, but others didn't. Attaching a photo of some of the text for 16-bit NCSA Mosaic...
(DIR) Post #ALwtHQLDjHlDml85dA by scribe@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-07-22T09:39:34Z
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@jackyan @strypey 32-bit NCSA Mosaic 2.0 had a "burning document icon combined with a plus sign ... to add a document to the Hotlist" which is, apparently, "a nice feature".
(DIR) Post #ALwtHQq3scQlKPYihc by scribe@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-07-22T09:41:39Z
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@jackyan @strypey Here's a shot of the Hotlist in action too...
(DIR) Post #ALwtHRFEN2Z0aTKovw by scribe@mastodon.sdf.org
2022-07-22T09:45:51Z
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@jackyan @strypey Netscape used the term "Bookmarks" instead, and had a pretty fully-fledged Bookmark editor at that point (see photo). All of the browsers here have some kind of back/forwards cache navigation in them.
(DIR) Post #ALwtHRhafbFU0QbT8a by jackyan@mastodon.social
2022-07-22T12:01:05Z
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@scribe @strypey So takes me back … exciting times. Felt like the world was opening up.
(DIR) Post #ALwtHSLIHz0XzZBB1U by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-07-28T11:29:16Z
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@jackyanI remember those days. Apparently our forerunners felt the same excitement about television in its early days. Then somehow it all ended up dominated by a handful of giant corporate networks ...@scribe
(DIR) Post #ALwtXM07dNw6xQrBui by jackyan@mastodon.social
2022-07-28T11:32:08Z
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@strypey That sounds familiar!Imagine seeing TV at the Centennial Exhibition at Rongotai … then having to wait another 20 years before NZBC started broadcasting!
(DIR) Post #APX4ojAghJV0X5CZ4i by strypey@mastodon.nzoss.nz
2022-11-12T16:04:41Z
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@aoikurayamiThat makes sense but I have a vague memory that bookmarks came well before history. Might vary from browser to browser.